Re: It's 2008 and nothing ever changes.


"McDuck" <wallyDELETEMEMcDuck@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:t79qn399eskr39f7sdab79mlm6n96taac6@xxxxxxxxxx
On Thu, 3 Jan 2008 12:25:29 -0500, "Dano" <janeanddano@xxxxxxxxx>
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"McDuck" <wallyDELETEMEMcDuck@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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The story I heard was that ***Baylor*** made that plea to Mac (on
behalf of Billy Buck).

That's the way I always heard it too. It doesn't really take the heat off
Mac for me...there's also the question about pulling Clemens...though
obviously we don't know which guy was lying about the "blister story".
Maybe Cobb knows the truth from his friend who was supposedly a former
player.

No, of course not. Still Mac's fault. But BB was not the kind of guy
to make that plea IMHO (based, as usual, on deep, inside information).
I was trying to clear BB from blame, not Mac.

As for the blister story, if Cobb gets the story from a player, he
will side with the player (Clemens). THAT is one of the unwritten
rules of baseball --- players side with players <g>.

Actually, I recall a TV program where Mac was asked about the pulling
of Clemens and Rich Gedman was also asked. As best I recall, Gedman
basically said he's have to go with the player. But he also said he
did not recall Clemens complaining about a blister.

Hard call for me b/c I think both Mac and Clemens are born liars. In
contrast, Gedman came across as a truthful guy (who like or was at
least grateful to Mac) but not wanting to get involved.

Well maybe...but I remember Gedman being pretty tight with Rodger. That may be damning (to Rodger) in that Gedman didn't back him unconditionally. I agree with you that I wouldn't trust the word of either man. Anyone with any class would accept the blame and take the heat no matter the truth anyway. They basically threw each other under the bus.

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