Re: Santana




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On Oct 31, 1:25 pm, "Dano" <janeandd...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> On Oct 31, 1:06 pm, Wayback1918 <wayback1...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> I've seen two separate rumors concerning Santana. Neither from a
>> credible source.

>> 1. Santana to The Yankees for Hughes, Kennedy and Milkey Cabrera

>> and

>> 2. Santana to the Red Sox for Buchholz, Lester and Crisp.

> Tough call. Either one would be a fair trade for Minnesota, IMHO.
> Cabrera and Crisp would start in CF; Coco's a little better
> defensively, but Cabrera may have more offensive upside. All four of
> the young pitchers are very talented and can step right into the
> rotation. I'd rank Buchholz first among the four, and Lester last, so
> it's a question of 1 and 4 or 2 and 3. Honestly, I'd make either deal
> if I were the Twins, and I'd make the deal too if I were the Yanks or
> Boston (provided that I could sign Santana to an extension beyond
> 2008, of course).

> BTW, this is not meant as any kind of slam on Buchholz. He's a
> terrific pitching prospect and I really like him. This is just about
> the only kind of trade I'd even consider putting him into (maybe also
> one for "the other Cabrera"); otherwise, I'd make him completely
> untouchable. It's just that Santana is truly the best pitcher in
> baseball, and is still in his prime, and would give Boston an
> absolutely amazing 1-2 combo with Beckett. Buchholz may very well
> become a star, but Santana's already there. Crisp can be easily
> replaced with Ellsbury, and Lester's IMHO a good but not great
> "prospect" (though I *totally* admire what he's overcome, and the way
> he came up big in the World Series).

OK. You do that. How much do you suppose Johan will cost you the following
year as a free agent?-

He would have already signed through at least 2011. I wouldn't make
the trade if I couldn't get the extension signed. How much would I be
willing to pay? I dunno. $20 million per? I tell ya one thing: If
I "had" to get Santana, I'd try to do it this way rather than waiting
for him to be a free agent, since it's quite possible that someone
else would trade for and extend him.


Well I'd have to say that's a pretty big element you are assuming without mention. Personally I'm thinking the only way he gets traded is IF he decides to opt for free agency and the ensuing bidding war for his services. Otherwise Minnesota re-signs him themselves.

So you now think Mike Lowell is worth something like 12-15 mil, yet you think Santana would sign for 20? I think that's extremely low. THAT is why I'd rather keep my young pitchers. The value is increasing so exponentially, that it makes them so much more valuable...to have under the team's control. Keep them both!

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