Re: Francona has some of the blame


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Dano wrote:
"McDuck" <wallymcduckDELETEME@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Papelbon is being overused. It has to stop.


"Yousemi-brain dead dolts seem to be missing the point, which is no
surprise. The point is tha Papelbon's value to the team may well be
higher as a starter. The so called closer role likely would suffer a
bit, but the starting pitching likely would be upgraded by a larger
margin with Papelbon pitching 200-220 innings instead of 70 to 80.

A great starter definitely is more valuable to a team than a great
closer. I have little doubt that pedro would have been a great closer,
but the manager who used him as a closer would have been a great
idiot."

Who said that? Now he's being overused? Yeah...he has thrown 47...I
guess that's a bit high...there HAVE been a high number of close games. I
really don't think he has been dangerously overused. Rivera at 36 years
old is at 46 in 3 fewer appearances (at 36 that may be too much).


The quote sounds more like Gronk than it does Wally. Also, young arms are
more vulnerable to overuse than are 36-year-old arms that have explored
the territory previously.

Really? Does that really make sense to you? That a healthy 25 year old
should be used less than a 35 or 40 year old?

Anyway...Wally AND Gnork don't think a shut down closer is that important
IIRC. So it shouldn't really matter who closes it out.

How many innings would Paps be up to if he were starting as many wished?
Starters are much more valuable than closers right?


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