another CurlyC Misconception



A quick review of this data may lead to the conclusion that Curly is just
getting confused with his own team - the New York Yankees, as then his
argument might make sense as it is the Yankees who are the most inconsistent
team of the "big hitters", it is they who have "piled on" and padded their
run scoring in blowouts. Curly - if you did indeed mean the Yankees, please
repost your "report" in your home newsgroup and no more will be said.


Compare the league leaders in offense in the AL - New York, Boston, Texas,
plus Chicago and Baltimore for relevance, and St.Louis as an NL comparison

Runs per game
Boston: 5.43
New York: 5.53
Texas: 5.44
Baltimore: 4.74
Chicago: 4.89
St.Louis: 5.44

CurlyC's throwaway conjecture, based on ? a hunch? frustration? longing to
return to Red Sox nation?

CurlyC*****************
"The redsox are over rated in regards to scoring runs. They have scored 4
runs or less in 10 of their last 16 games. The big reason their stats
look good is because they scored 34 runs in 2 games against the yanks.
They even outscored the yanks by 9 runs in a 4 game series but still
managed to lose 3. If the redsox score 42 runs in a 7 game stretch they
are doing it like this 3-4-17-3-4-5-6 instead of this 6-6-6-6-6-6-6.
"
/CurlyC



Right then

Number of times out of 100 games that the 6 teams mentioned have scored 6
runs

Baltimore - 6
Chicago - 13
New YOrk - 13
St. Louis - 14
Texas - 14
BOSTON - 18

ah, so, the team that doesn't go 6-6-6-6-6-6 actually has the most
occurrences of 6 runs in our data set, comparing the leading offenses

OK, let's add a 1 run margin and say how many times do the teams score 5,6,
or 7 runs

New York, Baltimore - 29
St.Louis and Texas - 36
Chicago and BOSTON -39

ah, so, the Red Sox are actually again the best at hitting the "sweet spot"
in run scoring, as defined by the Hardball Times fellas (Dave Studeman) in
direct contradiction to your assertion


Let us quantify the run scoring by working out a normalised standard
deviation - a coefficient of variation if you will, by working out the
standard deviation in run scoring divided by the average runs scored. This
means a team that scored exactly 6 every game would have a CoV of 0, whereas
a team who jumped up and down as CurlyC accuses the Sox would have a high
CoV due to the 3's and 9's in their scores etc

New York 5.54 RPG STDEV 3.86 = COV 0.70
Texas 5.44 RPG STDEV 3.72 = COV 0.68
St. Louis 5.43 RPG STDEV 3.72 = COV 0.68
Baltimore 4.74 RPG STDEV 2.98 = COV 0.63
Chicago 4.89 RPG STDEV 2.96 = COV 0.61
BOSTON 5.43 RPG STDEV 3.25 = COV 0.60

Oh that's a killer - you see, the Red Sox offense is actually the MOST
consistent offense, not the least consistent offense.


Right, let's look at how the Red Sox "pad" their stats with big wins by
looking at "Excess Runs" which I have determined as the number of times
they've gone over 10 runs (and what the total runs bagged in those games
were)


Baltimore - 5 games for 62 runs
Chicago - 5 games for 64 runs
BOSTON - 6 games for 82 runs
St.Louis and Texas - 7 games for 102 runs
New York - 12 games for 161 runs


hmm, it seems that it's CurlyC's *own* team, the New York Yankees who are
the team doing the "piling on" with double the blowouts of Boston in terms
of occurrences and runs.

In fact, if you subtract the blowouts and cap those run totals at 10 each
game (eg those 17-1 wins count as 10-1 wins), the Red Sox leap to the league
lead with 5.21 runs per game, while the Yankees and Cardinals both drop.


So CurlyC, here is the acid test.
Are you prepared to admit you were wrong, and that you tried to apply a
sweeping statement based on your gut feeling over a few games that haven't
gone well for the Sox

no arguments, no name calling, just come forward and embrace the truth.


.



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