Re: We knew this was coming.....




Briarroot wrote:
Ken Dixon wrote:
Briarroot wrote:

Ngo Dinh Diem wrote:

Your first sentence would be hilarious did you not mean it seriously
which I fear you do.


It happens to be the simple truth, though I can see where it crushes
your emotional need to bring down the high and mighty.


America (and the New Zealanders who volunteered
among others) simply had no moral or legal right to intervene in the
internal affairs of Vietnam in the first place.


Then it must also be true that the Russians and Chinese had no moral
or legal right to intervene, yet they did, and they did so long before
the USA became involved.


Semi interesting tidbit, a buddy of mine lost his uncle in an air strike
on Hanoi. His uncle was a AA Battery commander in the Cuban Army.

And there you go! Kooks like Peter would like to forget (or obscure)
the fact that it was the Russians and Chinese who supplied the Viet
Minh with arms to defeat the French in the first place. They
constantly warble their off-key tune about the "moral right" of US
involvement without showing the slightest embarrassment over
historical reality. These nuts will spin their factual distortions,
unfounded speculations, willful exaggerations, inadequate scholarship,
egregious errors and blatant falsehoods in every possible way, so long
as the result shows the USA in a bad light. It's almost comical.

Regards,

Tim Parker ... GL Pease Montgomery in a Barling square-shank billiard

--
"Any attempt to replace a personal conscience by a collective
conscience does
violence to the individual and is the first step toward
totalitarianism." - Herman Hesse

Here we go, I see you have appointed yourself as ASP's 'truth' monitor
hmm? It really beggars belief how you can trolly out that claptrap
with a straight face, and where do you get your 'facts' from or are
these more of your "own opinions" you somehow dream up during the day?
If you read any half-decent historical text you would be better
informed and something other than lies would come out of your mouth,
authors such as Nafeez Mosaddeq Ahmed, John Pilger, Zinn, Fisk,
Chomsky and Edward Said to name a few. Then again most of the
mainstream literature has been thoroughly sanitised and cleansed
completely eliminating anything that even remotely incriminates the
Americans just like your shoddy 'news' bulletins-the same happens here
unfortunately. Znet and informationclearinghouse are great though at
providing what mainstream media censors by omission.

And yes the Russians and the Chinese did supply the Vietnamese with
weapons and trucks to fight off the French--here's a question though,
if Mexico invaded America would you say Canadian aid should be
disallowed and its supply would somehow be wrong? Didn't think so,
regards
Peter.

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