Re: WAY OT: Western Culture To Go Extinct
- From: "Pumbaa" <pinkertonjames@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 19:50:56 -0600
"Ngo Dinh Diem" <sir_georgio@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> Pumbaa wrote:
> > "Ngo Dinh Diem" <sir_georgio@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> > > Mildly interesting article although I must confess I skimmed most of
> > > it. I understand what he is writing about, as a country's population
> > > stops breeding the govt of that country opens the gates to immigrants
> > > creating further tensions but nothing can be done about it.
> >
> > "Unless one wants to start offering prospective mothers and fathers
> > incentives to
> > have children.".
> >
> > Aren't income tax deductions for each child, Aid to Dependent Children,
> > Medicaid for children, free formular for children, free Head Start
Programs
> > ( I use the term 'free' in the Democratic sense that the money comes out
of
> > your taxes and not directly from your pocket as you never see the money)
an
> > incentive to have children? And how about our USA tax system when you
get a
> > tax refund that is greater than the taxes you actually paid to the IRS?
> >
> > If we expect women to have more children and stay at home to take care
of
> > them, why provide stay at home mothers with zero income? The society
needs
> > to provide jobs that pay the man enough money to live on without his
wife
> > having to work. It will be interesting to see how the various countries
go
> > about trying to do this. Japan for one is faced with essentially zero
> > population growth.
>
> Not to be disrespectful or anything but your post seems ever so
> slightly sexist-do you think all women should stay at home to care for
> the children and 'the man of the house' be the sole breadwinner? Such a
> view is outdated, sexist and plainly wrong. I firmly believe women have
> just as much a right to earn/work as men and governments need to
> provide schemes whereby men can take paid leave to look after children
> in the early stages of life. The fact none have done so shows that the
> mindset of most citizens is rooted in the 19th century and beyond.
My daughter, for one, has two small children and she hates to go to work and
leave them at a day care center. She works because she and her husband want
a standard of living that is beyond the ability of his salary to provide.
However. a lot of women who are married to men with low paying jobs work
just to keep the bill collectors away. I bet a lot of women, if they could
afford it, would like to be able to stay at home with the kids. I have no
objection to women that want to work. However unless they can get a good
salary after they figure the extra cost of clothes, travel, etc., the woman
may be working very cheaply. My wife is a nurse and I am a pharmacist.
When our children were little we worked different shifts so that a parent
was at home at all times to watch the kids. Now that is not practical for
all people. I would not have minded having paid leave to look after my kids
but, as you said. it is barely possible for a woman to get off from work
herself on many jobs.
.
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