Re: Well, they went and did it.
- From: "kilted1" <estela_vega@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2005 20:20:13 -0500
"Skip" <pyromancer@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> Uh oh. Maybe I had too much tequila after all.
>
> Skip wrote:
> > Tim, I'm very sure that top posting is far more common than bottom
> > posting in nearly all situations and in nearly all forums for the reason
> > I stated. That is, to save effort in paging down. In fact, I know of no
> > group but this one where some people use bottom posting. People want to
> > maintain the continuity of a thread so that the latest post is all that
> > is needed to get the entire conversation on a particular branch. That
> > being the case, it would be considered extremely impolite to delete
> > content from the thread. If content is to be preserved, replies get
> > long. If replies get long, people are inconvenienced by being forced to
> > page to the bottom. No one in a corporate environment would ever care
> > how long an email got. CYA is paramount, and content must be preserved
> > if one is to prove later on how a situation or email exchange really
> > unfolded. I am a corporate whore, so I have adopted the corporate
> > paradigm. It makes sense, besides, so all logical people would
> > naturally do the same.
> >
> > The only people who care about long posts or who insist on text posts
> > rather than HTML posts are those who access old-style internet forums
> > from a dialup modem. That is the past. Ancient history. Those people
> > can suffer with long downloads, as far as I am concerned. I have no
> > mercy, and no regard for them. There are text message listserver groups
> > that were started in the early 1990's for such stick-in-the-mud people
> > who are hopelessly mired in ancient technology, or who refuse to get
> > with the program and come into the modern world. This is the
> > information age, Tim. Overload is the norm, not the exception.
> >
> > Top posting makes more sense in the corporate environment where people
> > routinely deal with 80 to 150 or more interdepartmental emails per day.
> > I am a VP at my company. I have to deal easily with 150 emails per
> > day at work. Furthermore, in large corporate environments where CYA
> > comes into play, you need to preserve all previous comments so you can
> > prove at later dates that you notified the right parties at the right
> > time and they were the ones who dropped the ball, and not you. Why,
> > some emails get so long, that MS Outlook (the corporate standard email
> > system) has to indent the very earliest posts so much that all words are
> > broken into single letters streamed top to bottom in unreadably long
> > comet trail lines. It can be fascinating to read, you know.
> >
> > Bottom posting is stupid. If I cared to spend the effort, I'd write a
> > little macro to rearrange all posts to the standard method of top
> > posting. It is the standard method, and the logical one, you know, and
> > if you think differently, you're just wrong. Oh well. But I don't want
> > to waste my time. I can sort out a post very easily regardless of
> > whether multiple respondents to the thread post on the top or on the
> > bottom.
> >
> > OK, I admit I'm over the top and I'm exaggerating a little. But your
> > attitude really annoyed me. What attitude, you say? It's the officious
> > and pompous presumption that top posting must be "corrected", and the
> > fact that you don't just do it because it suits you, you do it and feel
> > it necessary to rub it in the logical top-poster's face. Why? Are you
> > a pedagogue? Are you so sure that you are "right", and have the right
> > to dictate to others how they should post on a forum? Yeah, what really
> > gets to me is your attitude. *** top posting corrected *** you say, as
> > though it were an error, an error mind you, and not a matter of
> > preference. Get real and get a life. I have decided that I will always
> > top post, because that is what I like. "Correct" if you will. It's
> > your wasted effort, not mine.
> >
> > "corrected" - screw that. Get the stick out of your ass.
> >
> > Skip.
> >
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> > Briarroot wrote:
> >> Skip wrote:
> >>> *** is top-posting frowned upon? ***
> >>> *** CONTINUED AT BOTTOM ***
> >>>
> >>> I prefer top-posting to bottom posting as I don't have to page down
> >>> past the quoted part to see the new response. To each his own, I
> >>> suppose, but if it is an agreed upon convention for this forum, I'll
> >>> see if I can accommodate it. Is it?
> >>
> >>
> >> Answer: Because it disturbs the logical flow of a message.
> >> Query: Why is top posting a sloppy form of writing?
> >>
> >> If posters would simply observe the time-honored convention of
> >> *editing* their quotes to include only that portion of the original
> >> message(s) to which they wish to respond, you wouldn't have to
> >> exercise your PageDown key so much. (Hint!)
> >>
> >> http://members.fortunecity.com/nnqweb/nquote.html
> >>
> >>
> >>> I hear what you are saying Tim, but since this isn't a political
> >>> forum, we might bore others with a long political discussion, or
> >>> perhaps even sow discord. I do not like discord when I am seeking
> >>> camaraderie, but I love discussing politics too. Some consider my
> >>> views extreme, and it's hard sometimes for me to keep my mouth shut.
> >>> I don't disagree with you greatly, by the way, but if you have a
> >>> preferred political forum and want to discuss it some more, I'd enjoy
> >>> it too. Point the way.
> >>
> >> The politics surrounding the anti-tobacco movement are always On Topic
> >> here. Extreme views (or not) are fine. ;-)
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Tim Parker ... Germain's Medium Flake in a Savinelli pot
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