Re: Best Memorial Weekend Lawn Poster

On Wed, 01 Jun 2011 19:21:19 -0700, Miss Elaine Eos wrote:
On 2011-06-01 15:37:49 -0700, Carbon <nobrac@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
said:
On Wed, 01 Jun 2011 08:34:17 -0700, Miss Elaine Eos wrote:
On 2011-06-01 05:05:29 -0700, Carbon <nobrac@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
said:

You guys made a claim that is demonstrably false.

I believe the claim was that Obama has alienated [many? most? all?]
of the leaders of our allied nations.

You demonstrated that the citizenry of those nations initially liked
Obama, but have since lessened their opinion of him. (A *very*
goofy presentation of the data, btw. But I'll not nit-pick that,
for now. Let's just accept your "demonstration" as presented.)

I don't see how these two items are related.

Whereas the actual claim was that Obama has alienated America's
allies. That was fine so long as there was no inconvenient poll data
to worry about. Suddenly now it's leaders of various countries.

If you didn't understand the original statement, why not just ask for
clarification, rather than go off on a tangent?

Misc "hey, *I* knew what he meant...!"

Was this before or after the gallup poll showed up? Because before that
no one was splitting this particular hair.

But no matter. By the end of Bush's second term he couldn't get
the time of day out of G20 leaders, and he was massively unpopular with
the citizens of those countries as well. So both bases are covered.
.

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