Re: [OT] Misc argues with Tony...



On 2011-01-17 13:48:33 -0800, Mickey <Mickey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> said:

Here, try this: rather than just repeat your assertions, show what is wrong with my statement that follows -- where does it break down?

Here is the statement: "A future choice, the outcome of which is known with absolute certainty[1], is not actually a choice at all -- it is merely the fullfillment of destiny."

It breaks down here: That absolute certainty is restricted to the Observer. Since the actor doesn't know the outcome, they must choose a course of action. They are free to make any choice they see fit.

Ok, let's say I agree with your statement. Will you allow me to extend it thus: "That absolute certainty is restricted to the Observer. Since the actor doesn't know the outcome, they must choose a course of action. They are free to make any choice they see fit, so long as they do not choose anything other than what the observer is already certain will be the outcome" ...?

If so, do you see the contradiction to which I object?

If not, why not? Do you see where I'm not getting what you (and Tony) are saying?

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