Re: OT: Castro vs. Ahmadinejad



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On 2010-09-23 23:11:53 -0700, "Bob" <bob@xxxxxxxxxxx> said:

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On 2010-09-23 17:04:58 -0700, "Bob" <bob@xxxxxxxxxxx> said:
Scripture says that Jesus was conceived of the Holy
Spirit...NOT
Mary.

I thought it was both.

Not according to scripture.

Are you REALLY saying that Jesus was not born to a human
woman?

No.

Help me to reconcile these two statements of yours, which
appear
mutualy
contradictory.

It SOUNDS like you're saying:

* Jesus was born to the Holy Spirit, not Mary and not both.
* Jesus was born to a human woman (who we call Mary.)

What am I mis-understanding?


I'm saying Jesus was conceived of the Holy Spirit and He was
born to
a human woman.
Mary was just like everyone else. She was born as a sinner to a
human
woman.
Scripture shows that Jesus is the only sinless One, not Mary.

Ok, but no one was arguing Mary's sinlessness -- the statement
against
which you [appeared to be] arguing was that Mary was Jesus'
mother. It
was worded as "God's mother", but we've all agreed that Jesus is
God,
so it's the same thing.

No, it's not the same thing. Mary gave birth to Jesus *the man*.

That's the heresy of Nestorianism.

More Catholic bullshit that tries to attribute divine qualities to
Mary.

Why do you keep saying that? It's untrue.


So you are publicly stating that you believe Mary is divine?

No, I never did.


So you are publicly stating that you believe Mary is not divine?

Yes. According to the Miriam-Webster definition, she it not.


Don't all "good" Catholics worship her and consider her a co-redemptrix?

No good Catholic worships Mary. The concept of Co-Redemptrix is not dogma.

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