Re: OT: budget deficits

On 5/17/2010 5:20 PM, Ray wrote:
On Tue, 18 May 2010 00:52:49 +0100, "Alex W."<ingilt@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

On Mon, 17 May 2010 16:01:14 -0700, Tom S. wrote:

On 5/17/2010 1:51 PM, Mickey wrote:
Yves Le Gal<flegal@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:


On Mon, 17 May 2010 13:35:11 -0500, Mickey<Mickey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:


but the existence of the historical Jesus is pretty much as
accepted as any other historical figure of that era.

Consensus amongst believers isn't scientific proof.

No it's not, you're right. I'm speaking of consensus among historical
scholars, who drew their data from sources outside the biblical
account.

What data sources would that be?

Aside from Josephus's three sentence account (most likely a forgery in
copying from the original), there is NOTHING in historical records.
And that's amazing, in light of the fact that the Romans were
inveterate record-keepers. We have *tons* of contemporary
material, right down to individual household shopping lists. No
mention of JHesus, though, even though his execution was not your
ordinary run of the mill judicial process: crucifixtion was
reserved for political high crimes, and those were certain to be
recorded, debated, taken note of and commented on by any literate
Roman.

Can't even find a copy of his certificate of live birth.
Is the claim he rose from the dead validated because there's no legitimate Death Certificate? :-P

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