Re: Thin Skinned President

On Sat, 14 Nov 2009 13:22:08 -0500, Tony wrote:

Alex W. wrote:
On Sat, 14 Nov 2009 07:31:32 -0800, Miss Elaine Eos wrote:

On 2009-11-14 00:50:49 -0800, "Alex W." <ingilt@xxxxxxxxxxx> said:

I'd say H-P and Humana are both very right-leaning companies, too.
By and large, companies are.

Misc "the successful ones, anyway ;)"
Here's an interesting deviant:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Lewis_Partnership

I doubt that such a model would fit every company or work in
every country, but it makes for a very decent stick with which to
beat those who would claim that employee-owned businesses cannot
work.
I realize that you weren't accusing me, but I just want to say that I
have no problems with employee-owned businesses.

I'll stick to my earlier, though, and say that most of the successful
ones are right-leaning in their policies (and, likely, politics.)

Not disagreeing, but a query: how would you define "successful"?
The biggest? The most profitable? The most long-lived? If you
have a retail business -- hairdresser, baker, candlestick maker,
etc -- then is it not success to earn enough over a lifetime to
support the family?

I would think that a company who has a happy, well-adjusted staff of
employees who pays them enough to support their families (to buy all of
the things they truly need, and some of the things they want) could be
considered a successful company.

That would be my estimation as well; I asked for clarification
because I wasn't sure from Ted's post whether he meant big
corporations or any sort of enterprise.

To your characterisation, I might also add a social dimension:
that such a company not only offers a long-term livelihood for
its employees (and owners) but also provides services to the
community. A small village shop, for instance, may not do much
by way of creating wealth or jobs, but it can offer a focus and
service the needs of the local community above and beyond selling
them soap and milk by being a focal point of village activity and
communication. Also, in the aggregate, small shops can offer a
better quality of life than having a big out of town supermarket.
These, I feel, are also criteria for success that are often
neglected because they are not easily quantifiable.
.

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