Re: Obama's approval rating: 0 !!



Paul M. Cook explained on 6/12/2009 :
"Tony" <tony@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:njzYl.9114$f36.7898@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Paul M. Cook expressed precisely :
"Tony" <tony@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:TNiYl.7650$gz5.4533@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Buck Turgidson submitted this idea :
In article <DbfYl.6285$f36.2627@xxxxxxxxxxxx>,
Tony <tony@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Buck Turgidson expressed precisely :
In article <5dYXl.12686$GD4.11099@xxxxxxxxxxxx>,
Tony <tony@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:


So, Buck. You agree with Obama that a baby who is born alive from a botched abortion should be left to die even if he or she could be saved by something as simple as food and water?

This is a yes or no question.

Your premise is false and therefore any answer would be, also.

Explain why the premise is false. This is a real live (well soon to be dead) situation. Do you believe leaving a premature baby who has been injured by an attempted abortion to die is okay?

The premise is false because Obama does not believe that, and your truncated clip of a quote doesn't prove he does.

Buck, do you believe that a premature baby who has been injured by an attempted abortion ought to be left to die?


The whole reason the baby was an attempted abortion was it was not going to live anyway. Contrary to your belief, these things are not done for frivolous reasons and in fact no abortion is permitted past the first trimester without serious reason. And no I am not going to buy your contention that includes simple and minor depression which is utter BS.

Let me give you "people's exhibit #1".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gianna_Jessen

"Jessen's biological mother was 17 years old when she sought an instillation abortion at 30 weeks of pregnancy. The abortion procedure failed, and Jessen was born alive and premature, with severe injury that resulted in physical atrophy and cerebral palsy. Subsequently, Jessen's biological parents, each aged 17, put Jessen up for adoption."

You are not entitled to live in a country were your religious beliefs are codified into federal law. That is the Constitution for you.

So Paul, do you believe that a baby, injured by abortion, born prematurely, should be left to die?

I will not engage in straw man arguments. You can pull up isolated and rare examples to refute anything but it does not change a thing. You are under a false belief in a crisis which does not exist. There are accurate stats kept by Planned Parenthood that show how, when and why a late term abortion was performed and you won't find "had nothing better to do that day" on the list. Your belief is clearly misogynistic from my point of view.

Do you understand what a "straw man" argument is? This is a simple question. It's a situation that has happened time and time again. I'd like to know your opinion of that particular rare occurance, not how it relates to the whole issue, but s single type of thing.

Do you believe that a baby born prematurely, after having been injured by an attempted abortion should be left to die on the table.

If you don't want to give an answer, I'm going to assume you do.

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