Re: Two thumbs down on the black caucus

In article <1bqhm2ulyerkw$.101jlyzvfgnor$.dlg@xxxxxxxxxx>,
Bob Borgeson <bob_b@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2009 18:42:18 -0700, Miss Elaine Eos wrote:

In article <nezzuom4ktjt.4if7lei9rosk$.dlg@xxxxxxxxxx>,
Bob Borgeson <bob_b@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2009 08:59:15 -0700, Miss Elaine Eos wrote:

In article <1fqmg7fsqk3yn.pokzmp5w5xxj.dlg@xxxxxxxxxx>,
Bob Borgeson <bob_b@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Unfortunately, knowledge about WWII is largely being lost. I know my
younger colleagues at work know very little and, worse, don't find it
relevant.

Other than the "life-lessons learned" angle, in what way is WW2 relevant
to today's youth?

And, taking into account those life-lessons, how is it any more or less
relevant than any other source of said lessons?

It doesn't really make sense to form a question about history by starting
with, "other than history."

I didn't say anything about "other than history" -- I said "other than
life-lessons learned."

Are you telling me that only history provides valuable life lessons?!

But, here's one. WWII jump-started the electronics age. I bet kids think
their iPods are relevant.

Sure. Hurrah. We have electronics now. Ok, cool, thanks.

So... why is it important that your colleagues at work know about WW2 or
consider it relevant?

Hey, if it makes you feel better, *I* think it's important and relevant!
But I'm pretty sure I feel that way for the same reason you do --
because it was drilled into us as important and relevant when we were
kids. Now that you've brought it up, and I stop to think about it, I
can't think of any particular reason why baby-Misc (for one example)
should particularly care to know very much detail about WW2.

Except that it's the basis of every cool war game, I mean. (Once nukes
were introduced, war games suddenly became boring. WW2 (and continuing
through more modern actions, but they're really just rip-offs of WW2)
was the most advanced really hellish stuff people did to each other at
close (and sometimes not-so-close) range. I.e., good game stuff.)

But really -- beyond "well, I'm your dad and I say it's important,
dammit!" -- why should baby-Misc be asked to study this stuff? I'm
particularly interested in reasons that tie it to some relevance in her
life.

NOTE: She probably thinks Henry Ford, the Wright Brothers and whoever
invented the car are irrelevant, too. While what they DID is relevant,
I can't quite figure strong arguments for making kids study (or care
about) the lives of the people who did these great things.

...Other than "because I'm your dad and I say it's important, dammit!" I
mean.

I'm not going to tell you how to teach baby-misc. But, at least try a
different way!

You kind of avoided the discussion here, Bob. Wanna try again?

....Or are you just going to admit that, sad as it is to us old farts,
WW2 isn't actually relevant to today's youth?

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