Re: More Death's Blamed on Bush



Bart Goddard <goddardbe@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Alex W <ingilt@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in news:18zzz1krrboey
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Likewise with the Temple gone, there is no place to sacrifice
bulls, so again, you shouldn't be having a problem here.

Would you care to defend your above argument against the
*real* experts? I rather think that the Jews, particularly
those from the orthodox flavours, have a strikingly
different view on the validity of these rules. Oh dear --
it looks as if we have an instance of differing
interpretation ....

I don't think so. I think most Jews agree that the rules
for ritual cleanliness are moot for almost everyone.
There's some mechanism by which the Temple might be
restored, (a red calf being born, etc.) so in that
contingency, some might want to keep themselves clean.
The rule is plain and its purpose is plain.

Then it is up to us to decide what the purpose of the rule is, and
whether or not it applies anymore, based on your last sentence.



Rules for governance of the political state of Israel
(which, in many a Jew's eyes, is alive and kicking the shit
out of its neighbours)

If so, they can worry about following those rules. I'm
not a member, so I'm not going to.

can and do cross the line into rules
for the internal governance of a community of the faithful
and can therefore be argued to remain applicable and
binding.

It can also be argued that the Holocost didn't happen and
that the earth is flat. So what?

No effectively, and not honestly.



Rules for ritual cleanliness shade into moral "cleanliness",
along the lines of "cleanliness is next to godliness": the
internal state manifesting itself in the external.

No, there's no shading. The division is clear.


As for moral laws, the injunction not to do murder is one of
the best-known instances where translations do differ -- is
it "murder" or "kill"?

Which is why we don't depend on translations for doctrine.
Duh.

B.
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