Re: Relative humidity and temperature

On 3/24/06 2:23 PM, in article Xns9790B0D693738Chillyspewage@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx,
"BG" <wjghouse@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

TimL <replyto@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> sed:

On Fri, 24 Mar 2006, "Alex W." <ingilt@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
"TimL" <replyto@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote ...
On Thu, 23 Mar 2006, "Alex W." wrote:
"TimL" <replyto@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote ...

On another note: This idiot that WAS working for me could
not even do that. He is 20 sheets short on a drywall takeoff for
a 17' x 22' room???!!! That equates to $1,200.00 that could make
or break this little project. I've already gave a budget
estimate and now I have to go back and tell them this? Add in
insulation that he had to miscalculate due to drywall shortage
and I'm sure this project is dead in the water! Sad as I have
already been given approval to go to contract.

End of rant and I'll close with, .....
There are some dumb MFers on this planet.

That'll teach you not to support more funding for better
public education! >:-)

That's a very sore subject with me. I'm already pissed that school
tax is higher than my property tax. I'm of the belief that a single
person with no children should receive a school tax discount. Why
should I have to pay the full price?

Let's base the tax on how many children you have.

Why?
Educating your children does not benefit you, does it? It
benefits your childrens' employers.

Education benefits you whether you have children or not, and
your hapless ex-employee is a very good example of that.
You are an employer, a customer, a taxpayer, a recipient of
public services, a neighbour, colleague -- in all of these,
you benefit from education, the others' as much as your own.

On a more general level, the single biggest advantage we
have over the hordes in the Third world is education. They
have more natural resources, they have more people, they can
make more of anything, and do it cheaper and quite often
better than we do. Our edge is knowledge, training and
expertise -- education. Neglect that truth, and sooner or
later, the unwashed funny-coloured masses will catch up with
us.

I'm at a total lost how you and BG can miss my argument?

Didn't miss it. I've heard it many times from my single and D.I.N.K
friends. But we can make the same argument about our tax money going to
subsidize industries we don't utilize, farmers whose produce we don't
eat, research that doesn't affect us directly, govt agencies whose
services we don't require, or wars we don't support.

An educated workforce is good for our economy, our GDP, and ultimately,
our ability to retire in nice, paid-for homes with humidores packed with
tasty smokes.

So, how do we fund education? Make parents pay more taxes per kid?
That might work. But, one has to wonder, and policy makers are
notoriously poor at figuring, what the unforseen consequences would be
of such a major change in policy. What economic sector has more kids
per family? Would the tax money go to that family's school district?
What formerly undesirable neighborhoods suddenly become desireable?
What kind of migration occurs? Low income families with lots of kids
now are paying both higher education taxes and higher real estate taxes
...

I'd be willing to bet this has been studied, and policies proposed ...


I've been on both sides of this. I finally realized -- when I didn't have
kids -- that paying school taxes as part of property taxes helps create a
better educated workforce PLUS it helps keep property values up. Both are
good for the economy, which is good for us personally.

Without school taxes, there'd be a lot less to build or remodel <g>

I don't like the war in Iraq, but we need a strong military, so I don't
object to my taxes going there, even though I don't personally use the
military. I stay off the 405, but I'm glad my taxes play a role in
maintaining and building highways.

I don't send my son to LA's public schools, but I don't bitch that my
property taxes pay for others who do. Do I wish the tax-supported LA schools
were better? Hell, yes. But without even the under-performing LAUSD, this
town would be utterly unlivable, crime would be even higher, the economy
would tank, etc. Not every kid can go to a private school.

We've had to revisit this in a big way this week, thanks to a lunatic who
lives across the alley from my son's school. He has taken to waving a pistol
around and verbally threatening the staff on weekends. The police department
(not LAPD told the school director not to tell the parents, even though
there's nothing the PD can do about it until he shoots somebody, despite a
restraining order). So we've had to look into the charter/magnet school
situation, since most of the private schools are jammed with people who
don;t want to be in the LAUSD.

If you don't believe your tax dollars should support public education,
that's fine, But do the math about exactly what not having it would mean.
And get serious about how exactly not supporting public schools would affect
yoru personal economic, employment and other situation.

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