Re: Update: NJ smoking ban

On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 16:22:16 GMT, Dave Hannes wrote:

> "Marc Schneiderman" <garbaron@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:naics154t2mp1ej8bbu1u8h1l1a5mia16b@xxxxxxxxxx
>> On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 12:41:52 GMT, "Dave Hannes"
>> <dhannes1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>>> There is no credible evidence that ETS contributes to heart disease
>>>> and lung cancer. Again you've failed the test. So the smoke has
>>>> toxins? That doesn't mean that one can get a significant toxic load
>>>> from ETS inhalation. Obviously, the toxins dissipate way too rapidly.
>>>> Now, do you've given another link that fails to implicate ETS to
>>>> cancer and heart disease. Care to try again? (Do you actually READ
>>>> your link?)
>>>>
>>>> CigarBaron
>>>
>>>Yes, I read the link and even mentioned that they only posted their
>>>conclusions--that ETS contains toxins.
>>>
>>
>> Still waiting for a link that demonstrates relative risks greater than
>> 2 of ETS's relationshiop to lung cancer and heart disease.
>
> A 39% increase isn't sufficient for you? :(

No. Not when taken in context. You seem to have a poor understanding of
what it means... A good primer is (I know you hate him, but) Dave Hitt's
website discussion of Statistics. It is a spot-on primer on statistical
analysis.

>
>> Wine
>> (alcohol) is a known oral carcinogen. Ever drink any? Afraid of oral
>> cancer from a wedding toast?
>>
>> CigarBaron
>
> I know, of course, and I'd be afraid of oral cancer from wine if I were
> subject to it every day, like some people are in their homes, cars, and
> workplaces.

And yet, if you drank a glass of it every day, you would live longer.

And THAT is a statistically significant study.

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