Re: The miracles of the qur'an (REPOST)

On Tue, 24 Apr 2007 17:34:16 +0100, 1man4all wrote:

Prophet Muhammad did not claim to be "inspired" by angels; Quran was
revealed to him as the Word of God. Does the Bible claim that it's the
direct word of God? Jews/Christians make that assumption but the Bible
does not claim that for itself.

The Bible does make that claim. "All Scripture is given by inspiration of
God (literally: God-breathed), and is profitable for doctrine, for
reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, that the man of
God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work." (2 Timothy
3:16)


What I meant to say is that almost every sacred books claim their spiritual
authority by invoking similar claims. For the bible, the book of Mormon,
they don't claim the same exact thing as the qur'an, but they claim divine
inspiration. The exact details of their origins isn't relevant here.

The adherents of those faiths claim divine inspirations but those
other books make it clear that they were written by human beings. The
four gospels were allegedly written by Mark, Luke, Matthew and John.
There is no evidence from the Bible itself that they were inspired by
God.

The books of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John are biographies of Jesus.
Their godly inspiration is a function of Jesus' divinity.


The same can be said about much of the Old Testament, even
though there are passages in there in which God was quoted verbatim.

A lot of the Old Testament is historical. God speaks to Israel through His
prophets - not unlike Allah speaking through Muhammad. It is through His
prophets that He sent down his law.

The Book of Mormon also claims to have been written by Prophet
Mormon. Nowhere does it claim to be a direct word of God. That may
not be important to you, but it is to me, because if a "sacred" book
does not even claim to be from God, why should I even bother to
'consider' it as holy.

I can claim my Chevy 1/2 truck is actually a Porsche 911 Turbo... that
doesn't make it so.

If I were to claim that I was the second coming of Jesus, would you
believe me just because I said so? Of course not. Then why does the Qu'ran
saying it is the revealed words of Allah then make it suddenly
authoritative of its own?

.

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