Re: US endorses Hamas win (Re: Hamas wins Palestinian elections (Re: US won't acknowledge Palestinian democracy


brickbat wrote:
> In article <1138333787.584924.166480@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
> "kuff (Isaac Adams)" <kuff00@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000087&sid=aVkEGwshCV5Y&refer=top_wor
> > ld_news
> >
> > The U.S. and other members of a group sponsoring Middle East peace
> > efforts endorsed the results of Palestinian elections that were won by
> > Hamas, an Islamic movement bent on Israel's destruction.
> >
> > The so-called Quartet of the United Nations, U.S., European Union and
> > Russia ``calls on all parties to respect the results of the election
> > and the outcome of the Palestinian constitutional process so that it
> > may unfold in an atmosphere of calm and security,'' a statement issued
> > from New York said. ...
> >
> > ``The state of `Hamastan' has been created before our eyes, an Iranian
> > satellite state in the image of the Taliban,'' former Prime Minister
> > Benjamin Netanyahu, who will run against Olmert in March 28 elections,
> > said in remarks broadcast on Israel Radio. ...
> >
> >
> > kuff (Isaac Adams) wrote:
> > > http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/english/doc/2006-01/26/content_515857.htm
> > >
> > > Hamas' top official told Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas on Thursday
> > > the Islamic militant group is ready for a partnership after defeating
> > > the ruling Fatah Party in parliamentary elections - a shocking upset
> > > sure to throw Mideast peacemaking into turmoil.
> > >
> > > Officials in both parties said Hamas appeared to have captured a large
> > > majority of seats in Wednesday's elections. The Central Election
> > > Commission said the vote count had not been completed and that it would
> > > make an official announcement Thursday evening. ...
> > >
> > > Israel and the United States have said they would not deal with a
> > > government led by Hamas, which has carried out dozens of suicide
> > > bombings and which they consider a terrorist group. ...
> > >
> > > Israeli officials declined comment on the outcome, but senior security
> > > officials gathered Thursday to discuss the results. Acting Prime
> > > Minister Ehud Olmert scheduled talks with senior officials later in the
> > > day.
> > >
> > > Olmert said Wednesday, before Hamas claimed victory, that Israel cannot
> > > trust a Palestinian leadership in which the Islamic group has a role.
> > >
> > > "Israel can't accept a situation in which Hamas, in its present form as
> > > a terror group calling for the destruction of Israel, will be part of
> > > the Palestinian Authority without disarming," Olmert said in a
> > > statement issued by his office. ...
> > >
> > > Turnout was heavy, with nearly 78 percent of 1.3 million eligible
> > > voters casting ballots. Polling stations were heavily guarded, and
> > > there were no reports of major violence.
> > >
> > > International observers, including former President Carter, reported no
> > > major problems with fraud.
> > >
> > > kuff (Isaac Adams) wrote:
> > > > http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/673474.html
> > > >
>
> To think that Democracy can work in an Islamic state is total absurdity.

I don't. It seems to be working in Palestine, Iraq and Iran.

> It flies in the face of all Islamic teachings and, contrary to the
> revisionist beliefs of US's own brand of religious fundies, is a
> commitment to secular, or at least, religious neutral societies.

No it is not. It's a commitment to the majority.

> Democracy will be used simply to sweep away any government intent on
> controlling or moderating Islam,

Which, in the countries cited, would be an anti-commitment to the
majority. Not very democratic is it?

> and to put in place a pure theocracy.
> Either Bush is a raving fundamentalist idiot or he is doing this
> democratization in the ME thing for greed and self interest.

This is an inclusive "or" not an exclusive one. :-)

> In either
> case, the US citizenry is being duped. We are paying in lives and the
> borrowed dollars selling out our own future.
>
> > > > The American administration has promised Israel that the United States
> > > > will not recognize any Palestinian government in which Hamas
> > > > participates, government sources in Jerusalem have said.
> > > >
> > > > The sources said that American envoys who visited here about 10 days
> > > > ago told Israeli officials that recognizing such a government would
> > > > violate American law.
> > > >
> > > > Israel has also received similar messages from Javier Solana, the
> > > > European Union's top foreign policy official, and Spanish Foreign
> > > > Minister Miguel Moratinos, who visited Israel last week, the sources
> > > > said.
> > > >
> > > > Polls have shown that Hamas could win a third or more of the vote in
> > > > the Wednesday elections for the Palestinian parliament, a showing that
> > > > could prompt an offer from the ruling Fatah party to share power in a
> > > > coalition government. ...

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