Re: Your moment of Zen - brought to you by OBL


>>> > But, don't worry. If you really meant you hope the violence
>>> > escalates,
>>> > you have a powerful ally: :>)
>>> >
>>> > "slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and
>>> > besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush..."
>>> > --God, c. 6?? AD
>>>
>>> "And if anyone of the idolaters seeketh thy protection (O Muhammad),
>>> then protect him so that he may hear the Word of Allah,
>>
>> What if he doesn't want to hear Allahs words?
>>
>
> It doesn't matter.

Why not? I would think it would.

>> and afterward
>>> convey him to his place of safety."
>>> --Allah (swt), less than one minute later.
>>
>> Seems kinda contradictory, to me, but don't fret, I acknowledge there are
>> contradictions in Christianity.
>>
>
> It's not contradictory at all. It establishes limits that, should
> one exceed them, define transgressions. That's the practicality of
> Islam: while recognising that conflict is a facet of the human experience,
> given the inequality and injustice that has always figured prominently
> in our troubled history, and while establishing the right of the Muslims
> to defend themselves

What were they defending at Yathrib?

and their beliefs in the face of intolerance and
> injustice (the passages above were in regard to the fight between
> Meccan idolaters and the Muslims, against which Muhammad (pbuh) had
> negotiated a truce, and the acknowledgement that following the truce,
> open warfare would inevitably resume unless the idolaters were prepared
> to accept even the existence of the Muslims, which history demonstrated
> they were not), the Qu'ran also establishes the limits of that fight.
>
> --A


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