Re: Science v. Religion: Reason v. Fantasy


Phaedrine wrote:
> In article <1136227697.851554.7530@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
> jim_hallerud@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
>
> > You are wrong. Without religion there is no right or wrong. There is
> > a reason that Western culture is the most humanitarian of all cultures.
> > It is Christianity. Before Christianity society was barbaric.
> >
> > Jimmy Boy
>
>
> Oh no. Sam is quite right. Only the feeble minded, incapable of logic
> and foresight, or sociopaths, have no conscience. Organized religion
> was invented for a dual purpose (1) to control people--- mostly the
> dull-witted and, therefore, easily manipulated; and, (2) as an attempt
> to answer the "where did we come from?" question. The notion that
> ethics can't be taught and modeled except in an organized religious
> context is utter nonsense.
>

You are illogical. What purpose would ethics server without religion?
The Greeks, philosophers, and Solomon have covered this topic centuries
ago. Now you introducing your concept of religion in the form of
"ethical education". How is this different than a religion? You are
such a hypocrite.


> The reason that Western culture is more humane is because of education,
> not religion. Before the Enlightenment, Christianity was waging wars,
> the Inquisition, burning books, heretics, witches and doing its utmost
> to keep people ignorant and, therefore, malleable.
>

You have a very limited view of history.


> Some of the ideas and ethics of early Christianity have much merit but
> appear to have been lost long ago as so many so-called Christians
> thought nothing of murdering, stealing, and committing all manner of
> mayhem allegedly in the name of God. For the most part, greedy men have
> warped and ruined Christianity to feed their needs for power and
> material things.
>

This is the crux of the matter. You can't blame the ideology of
Christianity for the greed of people who use religion for their own
ends.

Jimmy Boy

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