Re: The 4th amendment - We fought a revolution for it



On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 14:21:18 -0600, Server 13 <c-bee1@xxxxxxxx> wrote:

>E.E.Bud Keith wrote:
>> "Phaedrine" <Phaedrine.Stonebridge@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:Phaedrine.Stonebridge-3F76E7.11183427122005@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>
>>>That's a good article for the most part. But I'm not sure how
>>>meaningful the Ben Franklin quote is. Far too often, this controversy
>>>is being framed in absolutist terms: Either we can have security or a
>>>right to privacy. And that's ridiculous of course. We can _reasonably_
>>>have both. I remain unconvinced that Bush has to break the law for the
>>>Administration to conduct adequate surveillance. But I'm glad that
>>>surveillance targeted against suspect individuals and establishments is
>>>being conducted. If the end run around FISA is for the purpose of
>>>spying for political purposes or just another unnecessary power grab,
>>>then this Administration may face serious legal and political
>>>consequences.
>>
>>
>> Would you consider all the wailing from liberals to be the development of a
>> series of half truths in order to make a power grab. Democrats like Truman
>> and Roosevcelt faced the same problems. We all know that Roosevelt over rode
>> the rights of Japanese citizens in the name of security. The difference at
>> that point in time was that the general public felt as he did, the safety of
>> American citizens was paramount.
>> Todays liberal socialists pretend to be protecting the rights of ordinary
>> citizens from that terrible Bush.
>> What is the primary right for any human being, the right to life. Without
>> that right to life the rest of the rights that liberals cry about are not
>> worth the hot air wasted on them.
>> The 3000 people killed on 9/11 do not have a worry in the world about their
>> right to privacy, they can't exercise it because they are dead.
>
> Yep - THANKS, BUSH!!!

Thanks, indeed. No additional attacks in the US since 911. It's
important to remember that this is US partisan politics at its worst.
It has nothing to do with privacy or the Constitution and everything
to do with weakening the office of the President as a sort of revenge
for what the Dems perceive as wrongs that the Repubs did to Clinton,
and of course to hopefully grab some Congressional and Gubernatorial
seats in the upcoming elections.

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