Re: More on Iranian support for AQ


Count 1 wrote:
> "Abdiel" <abdiel_bc@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> >
> > Count 1 wrote:
> > > "Abdiel" <abdiel_bc@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> > > news:1135107359.872328.162090@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >
> > > > Count 1 wrote:
> > > > > > > > > When I read their reports, I can hear the angels singing. A
> > > glow
> > > > > > > surrounds
> > > > > > > > > me, and I am transported to a paradise of truth.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Then you're an idiot.
> > > > >
> > > > > I know this is probably just an oversight on your part, but for some
> > > strange
> > > > > reason you removed my question...
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > That's because it's stupid.
> > >
> > > Then you should have no problem addressing it. Do you think I'm idiotic
> > > enough to believe in your prophet, especially considering his rather
> > > colorful history?
> > >
> >
> > That's a question that presupposes an answer based on a fallacy, namely
> > that you'd have to be an idiot to be a Muslim--a fallacy broken very
> > easily by the fact that there are a great many hyperintelligent Muslims
> > in the world, men and women much, much, much smarter than you.
>
> Whether they are "smarter" than me in some undefined intellectual discipline

Like clear, sound, and logical thought? That isn't undefined. In
fact, most universities, and even junior colleges, offer classes in
critical thinking, of which clear, sound, and logical thought is a
foundational component, as a requisite component of first year studies.
But that's not the only way they're much, much, much smarter than you.
And their existence breaks your fallacy, and therefore your question.

If you were to ask me a different question, stripped of fallacy and of
any presupposed answers based on your own misconceptions and your own
self-imposed superiority complex, I'd be happy to provide an answer.

> doesn't speak to the fact that they believe in a fallacy called islam, and
> revere a very poor example of personhood in the individual mohammed.

It's a bit ironic that the above is, of itself, a fallacy. Can you
identify which one(s)?

>
> Most of
> > whom, for instance, can clearly define and identify a valid and sound
> > deductive argument, while it's been proven that you cannot, and since
> > just about anybody would agree that careful, logical, and sound
> > thinking is a prerequisite *not* to be considered an idiot, I think
> > it's presumpuous of you to consider yourself any smarter than them.
>
> Actually if you recall correctly you conceded you didn't know what a
> deductive argument was, considering you originally thought it was based on a
> premise, rather than a sound or universally accepted premise.
>

You're either lying or fundamentally misinterpreting your previous
lessons:

A deductive argument is based on at least two premises and a
conclusion. A valid deductive argument is based on at least two
premises and a conclusion which, if both premises are assumed to be
true, cannot be false. A sound deductive argument is based on at least
two premises which are either true, supportable with further or prior
argument, or generally accepted and a conclusion which, given the two
premises, cannot be false. I did not state anything to the contrary.

However, I don't think you really want to relive that argument because
you lost it quite handily.

> > > > > I have made no indication of my feelings regarding the veracity of
> this
> > > > > report.
> > > >
> > > > Count 1: "More on Iranian support for AQ." Not "More *allegations of*
> > > > Iranian support for AQ."
> > >
> > > It was 'more'. 'More' of what I leave up to the mature reader to
> discern.
> >
> > More on Iranian support for AQ, as if it's suppsed there already is
> > *some* on Iranian support for AQ.
>
> There is. Read the 9/11 Commission report for further education. You can
> consider it the Tip of the Iceberg.
>

1) Quote the parts of the 9/11 Commission report that reveal with
clarity that the Iranian regime supports al Qaeda.

2) What's the rest of the iceberg?

>
> > > > > ROFLMAO...when asked to present something more than your opinions
> > >
> > > > > you claim
> > > > > there's nothing to see
> > >
> > > > That's because there isn't.
> > >
> > > Undoubtedly. If you had something more for us to see you would have
> presented it by now.
> >
> > Thank you.
>
> You're welcome.

> > > It's just DEBKAFile putting forward
> > > > another unverified assertion without any backing. And you buying it.
> > >
> > > Whether I 'bought it' or not is indeterminable by you,
> >
> > It's fairly clear to me.

--A

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