Re: Election Day on the Euphrates - American "imperialism" at work


The Chozen Few wrote:
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> > The Chozen Few wrote:
> >> "kuff (Isaac Adams)" <kuff00@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> >> >> > The troops are good guys being used by not so good guys.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> A noble sentiment, on the face of it.
> >> >
> >> > Why thank you. That's all anyone of us has - a face. Especially in
> >> > something like a usenet newsgroup. That's perhaps why the orientals,
> >> > having more experience in this whole civilization thing, put so much
> >> > emphasis on preserving it.
> >> >
> >> >> But behind its face, there's also
> >> >> your agreement with another sentiment to consider:
> >> >>
> >> >> http://tinyurl.com/btxnu
> >> >
> >> > Um, I'm not seeing how that is particularily germane.
> >>
> >>
> >> Here's a clue wrapped in a question:
> >>
> >> If Pat Tillman had given up his football career to join the Flight 93
> >> hijackers, would you "agree with the sentiment" that he was one of those
> >> "heroes"?
> >>
> >
> > As Pat Tillman? That'd be so weird I don't know what I'd think.
>
>
> Okay, next clue, next question.

I guess with all the 'clues' you are playing a bored game?

> Back to the real Pat Tillman -- judging
> from the story at your link, he obviously had strong opinions and no
> reluctance to express them in a pungent way.

Correct. And still do what he thought was his duty even though the
opinions conflicted.

> What do you suppose he'd think
> and say about that woman's "sentiment" that "there were heroes on both sides
> of the door" on Flight 93,

Does he read Chomsky? Why yes, I believe he does. :-) He might
agree.

> and about your agreement with it?

He would allow the same room for my opinions as, presumably, he takes
for his own. He seems to have been that sort of guy.,

>
>
> >> > The closest I get in July 2004 posting to the US military is when I
> >> > said:
> >> >
> >> > "And the words the US military uses when it awards medals. "without
> >> > regard for personal safety". Seems as good a description of bravery
> >> > as any."
> >> >
> >> > I don't see how the July sentiment affects today's sentiment.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> > When does a gun become a murder weapon?
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Same as a box-cutter -- when a murderer uses it.
> >> >
> >> > Exactly! By Jove, I think you're getting it!
> >>
> >>
> >> I got it a long time ago, along with the difference between heroes and
> >> murderers.
> >
> > But do you get the difference between guns (soldiers) and trigger
> > pullers (leadership)?
>
>
> Sure.

Okay.

> I also get that it's much smaller than the difference between guns
> and soldiers,
> and that it's even smaller than the difference between box-cutters and
> murderers.

Not really. Probably depends on the scale and metrics you are using to
measure it. The employer is different than the employed. (Unless
your statement was just another 'clue' in which case I have no idea
what you are talking about.)

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