Re: It turns out the Iranian president is nuts


Count 1 wrote:
> > > > Ha, ha! Brrrr, no - not at all. I don't want his comments
> > > > forgotten.
> > >
> > > Then why are you trying to shift the focus of this thread away from his
> > > comments and towards your theories?
> >
> > And why don't I want his comments forgotten? You snipped that partial
> > answer to your question.
> >
> > <repaired>
> > My attitude is a paraphrase of Jack Nicholson's character in "Batman":
> > "What this world needs is an enema." :-)
> > </repaired>
>
> Yes, your misanthropism has been well documented in the past. But I don't
> see the relevance.
>

My alleged misanthropism is not relevant to my motivations? Okay....

>
> > The rest of the answer would be that I don't want "to shift the focus
> > of this thread away from his comments and towards" my own theories. I
> > was just pointing out that he's not the first to notice the
> > manufactured quality of "The Holocaust".
>
> I'm sure he's not. What else do you two have in common?
>

Maybe similar senses of humor. Let's see how this plays out.

>
>
> > > > > > And if you answer that question then you would be better armed to
> > > > > > produce the scholarly paper "The Creation of the Holocaust Brand".
> :-)
> > > > >
> > > > > Sounds like research to support a conclusion. Kinda like what you
> claim
> > > the
> > > > > US did regarding WMD in Iraq.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > No.
> > >
> > > You've already titled the report. "Creation of the Holocaust Brand". Now
> > > you're off to find the evidence of this conclusion. What's the
> difference?
> >
> > A report with that title could have a conclusion in opposition to its
> > title. I've seen that done from time to time.
>
> "He's correct. The Holocaust brand was created in the 60s. I think if one
> were to pick up the 120 issues of Life magazine from 1960-1969 one could do
> a scholarly paper on "The Creation of the Holocaust Brand". "
>
> Funny - you seem to be saying the brand was created, and you even outlined
> the process by which one could demonstrate it.
>
> You even gave it a timeframe. Now you seem to be saying the report could
> reach the opposite conclusion, which calls into question your original
> assertion that the brand was created in the 60's.
>

Yes it does call that into question. My assertion was from memory of
120 issues of Life magazine. The report would be from analysis of 120
issues of Life magazine. The results could be different.

Without doing the report all I have now is the memory.

>
>
> > > It (What is the relationship between "news reports" and "western
> > > > academia"?) would be research of a general nature applicable to all
> > > > topics where there was an intersection of both media and academia in
> > > > the same domain.
> > >
> > > LOL... then you're going to have title that report differently.
> >
> > To avoid confusion you are probably right. A less challenging title
> > would be "Creation of the Holocaust Brand?"
>
> There ya go.
>
> > > How do you know one is saying 'the Holocaust' and not 'the holocaust'
> when
> > > you're communicating verbally?
> >
> > It can be hard.
>
> ROFLMAO... I had no idea you were suffering so much.
>
>
> > > 'The Holocaust' is a term used out of convenience.
> > >
> > >
> > > > > In what way is it a 'myth' or a 'legend'?
> > > >
> > > > It's a half-truth somewhat in support of an ideology. "the
> holocaust"
> > > > is a reference to the European killings during WWII includes gypsie,
> > > > homosexuals, mental defects and other 'undesirables' as well as the
> > > > Jews. "The Holocaust" is the brand that only refers to the Jews.
> > >
> > > Nope. The holocaust, either capitalized or not, is merely a term used by
> > > convention and convenience to describe the jewish experience in WW2. It
> is
> > > not a half truth, nor is it an ideology. It is a fact, and the Iranian
> > > president was demonstrating his insanity when he called it a myth.
> >
> > Well if it's used by convention and convenience as you say then the
> > Iranian president would be saying "the jewish experience in WW2 is a
> > myth". Now that would be screwy as there were jewish experiences in
> > WW2, eh?
>
> Yes.
>
>
> > >
> > > > Such basic things about "The Holocaust" as "Did 6 million really die?"
> > > > can't even be asked these days. That very much characterizes a
> > > > societal response to a myth that cannot be questioned.
> > >
> > > "Did six million jews really die?"
> >
> > No.
> >
> > >
> > > There you go - I just asked the question. So much for your paranoia.
> > >
> >
> > There you go - and I answered it.
>
> Check for the black shirts who are inevitable converging on your location
> right now.
>

Only if it's shift change...

>
>
> > > > >
> > > > > > (NB: One news report has gone so far as to translate whatever
> Farsi
> > > > > > word he used into "fairy tale". Makes for a better headline I
> > > > > > suppose.)
> > > > >
> > > > > Do you have a point?
> > > >
> > > > Sure. I want to know what the Farsi word was and how it was usually
> > > > translated in various contexts.
> > >
> > > I know - you were hoping to find a translation that magically changed
> > > 'myth', or 'legend', or 'fairy tale' to 'fact'.
> >
> > Ha, ha! No. But I did find a definition of 'myth' which said
> > "half-truth". Good enough for me.
>
> Good enough for what?

To have some truth in it.

> Did you find a definition for 'fairy tale' that helps
> you?
>

Didn't go that far.

>
> > >
> > > It must be very disappointing to have the object of your defense
> providing
> > > so much material to undermine your efforts. :-)
> >
> > Defense? I'm defending accuracy. Don't try the "***-lover"
> > charge, okay?
>
> I don't even know what the '*** lover' charge is.

"Let him go."
"He was looking at the white women."
"That's no reason to string him up."
"What are you, some kind of ***-lover?"

> If you were interested
> in defending accuracy, you'd be taking the 'President' of iran to task for
> his insane rants./

I have. His historical timeline is all wrong WRT the foundation of
Israel and the manufacturing of the 'mth'.

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