Re: Contempt and defiance from Muslim accused of murdering film-maker


"kuff (Isaac Adams)" <kuff00@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Bob Cooper wrote:
> http://tinyurl.com/eyr4u
>
> Contempt and defiance from Muslim accused of murdering film-maker
> By David Rennie in Amsterdam
> (Filed: 12/07/2005)
>
> ...
>
> He offered no defence, instructing his lawyer to tell the court that he
> acknowledged only Islamic law.

He may do that. Ultimately it comes down to the individual which
'law' he, by conscience or choice, 'acknowledges'. Now of course
other individuals may treat him according to the 'law' they
'acknowledge'. :-)

>
> Bouyeri had refused to attend his trial, a right normally granted to defendants
> by Holland's scrupulously liberal court system,

I thought the 'right' was that of facing your accusers in court.

> but, in view of the impact of
> Mr van Gogh's murder in November, he was forced to attend the hearing in
> a maximum security building in the Amsterdam suburb of Osdorp.
>
> ...
>
> The court was told that Bouyeri shot his victim six times then slit his throat
> with a kitchen knife, severing Mr van Gogh's neck down to the backbone
> before impaling to his chest with the knife a five-page note threatening other
> public figures.
>
> Witness statements read in court described how he reloaded his gun then
> walked around a park before firing on a police vehicle, allegedly in an
> attempt to provoke a gunfight and die a martyr.
>
> ...
>
> Mr van Gogh's mother, Anneke, delivered a brief victim statement to the
> court. Her voice shaking, she said of Bouyeri: "He had the time to plan this,
> because for three years he was on unemployment benefits."

How much planning would it take? Bolting bumpers on Buicks still
leaves a lot of time for 'planning'.

>
> Holland's welfare society had one more surprise to offer. Two senior
> policemen involved in the final shootout with Bouyeri appeared in court to
> ask for ?3,000 (£2,060) compensation for emotional distress.
>
> Insp Marcel Groenendaal and Brig J S de Ruyter said they had suffered
> loss of concentration and apathy since the gunfight. Bouyeri rolled his eyes
> at their testimony, apparently amused.

Indeed.

>
> ...
> ==========================================================
>
> "Insp Marcel Groenendaal and Brig J S de Ruyter said they had suffered
> loss of concentration and apathy since the gunfight. Bouyeri rolled his eyes
> at their testimony, apparently amused."
>
> The Dutch are finished.

Here's a thought.

Bouyeri murdered van Gogh. It was an unlawful killing. Some States
still do lawful killings in the form of executions as punishment.

Bouyeri was punishing van Gogh for his film which was a form of speech.
States punish for some kinds of speech.

The difference between Bouyeri punishing for van Gogh's film and States
punishing for Holocaust Denial statements is a matter of degree and not
kind. :-)

************
Hold that thought, Kuff. It should be of considerable comfort to you
when they come to cut off *your* head :>)



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