An open challenge to Muslims!

All devoted Muslims believe that the inimitability of the Qur'an is
found in
the eloquence and excellence of the Arabic language in which it is
written;
thus, it is impossible for them to imagine that the language of the
Qur'an
is full of errors. They think that the Qur'an is the direct Word of
Allah
and it does not contain a single word from any human being, not even
the
prophet Muhammad. Muslims also believe that the Qur'an and the Hadith
form
the foundation of the daily life of a practicing Muslim. They think the
Qur'an has not changed by even a single letter since its revelation
fourteen
centuries ago. Their argument is that Prophet Muhammed was an
illiterate
man, for such a man to write on so many subjects, ranging from science
to
astronomy to medicine with a high degree of accuracy is impossible.
Subsequently at that period no one could provide substantial
confirmation on
findings, because of lack of science and technology. Modern science
demonstrated the objective articles written in the Qur'an to be
precise.
They claim that the Qur'an provides a kind of scientific knowledge
which was
impossible to acquire by men of that time. This is also a proof that
the
Qur'an is the word of Allah !!!!

BUT IS IT REALLY TRUE ?

I have read the Qur'an and then the Hadith several times with a free
mind
and I saw just the opposite picture what my Muslim "scholars" claim. I
don't
want to explain anything about the Textual Variants of the Qur'an or
The
Origins of the Qur'an here, because many discerning words have already
been
spent on this issue. As an engineer, I do have much more interest in
current
practical issues rather than the historical. At first glance I wondered
whether it is really true that the Qur'an holds such kind of precise
knowledge that was impossible to be acquired by the ancient people? To
examine such a hypothesis, I did not have to go for grandiose words
like
"Big Bang Theory", or "Anatomy, Embryology and Genetics" (if readers
are
interested in these kind of issues, they may refer to my Mukto-mona
Article
page ); rather I took a simple scientific fact which was proven a long
time
ago (but obviously not before the time when the Quranic verses were
written
or collected); and the simple fact is--"The Earth moves around the
Sun". My
enquiry is:

DOES THE QUR'AN SUPPORT THIS FACT ?
Ancient people believed that our Earth is flat and they thought that
"it is
not the Earth but the Sun that moves". In the Quran we see exactly the
same
picture that represents the idea of the people of that time. Not only
the
Quran ---but also the Bible, the Gita, the Mohabharat and the Vedas
depict
the same picture because these common "facts" were seen by the naked
eyes of
the ancient people in their everyday life. The people of the ancient
world
did not have prior knowledge about relative motion, they incorrectly
thought
that it is the Sun which moves, not the Earth !!

Here I quote some of the verses from the Quran so that we can form the
concept of the movement of the Sun:

" And the Sun runs on its fixed course for a term.." [Ya-Sin(36:38)]

".... And He has subjected the Sun and the moon. Each running for an
appointed term. Verily, He is the All-Mighty..." [Az-Zumar(39:5)]

"...He has subjected the Sun and the moon (to continue going round)!
Each
running (its course) for a term appointed.." [ Ar-Ra'd (13:2)]

"And He it is Who has created the night and the day, and the Sun and
the
moon, each in an orbit running." [Al-Anbiya(21:33)]

"Allah merges the night into the day, and merges the day into the
night, and
has subjected the Sun and the moon, each running its course for a term
appointed; and that Allah is aware of what you do." [Luqman(31:29)]

I'll also suggest that the interested reader to go through Al-Baqarah
(2:258), Al-Kahf (18:86, 18:90) and Ta-Ha(20:130) to affirm the concept
that
Quran clearly states that Sun is moving.




Now, I quote the following verses which clearly state that according to
the
Qur'an the Earth is fixed.

"And among His Signs is that the sky and the Earth stand by His
Command.."
[ Ar-Rum(30:25)]

"Verily! Allah grasps the heavens and the Earth lest they move away
from
their places,." [ Fatir (35:41)]

"Is not He Who has made the Earth as a fixed abode.." [An-Naml (27:61)]

"He has created the heavens without any pillars, that you see and has
set on
the Earth firm mountains, lest it should shake with you.." [Luqman
(31:10)]

"It is god who has made for you the Earth as a resting place and sky as
a
canopy" [Al-Baqara (02:22)]

"And He has affixed into the Earth mountains standing firm, lest it
should
shake with you, ..." [An-Nahl (16:15)]

Don't be surprised by these verses. Ancient people did not have the
accurate astronomical knowledge. They did not know the actual fact
behind
Sunset and Sunrise. They had a severe problem to solve --"Where exactly
does
the Sun stay at night !!!". The Qur'an says that one of the righteous
men of
God's servants saw the Sun setting in a certain place of the Earth-in a
particular a well full of water and mud. There, this man found some
people.
Let us read what is recorded in the Qur'an (chapter "the Cave", verse
86):

"When he reached the setting place of the Sun, he found it setting in a
muddy spring and found a people thereabout. We said: 'O Dhul-Qarneyn!
Either
punish or show them kindness" [Al-Kahf (18:86)].

Muhammed also failed to give the correct answer to one of his shahabas
about
the sunset. Let's analyze the Prophet's speech in the Hadith (Where
does the
Sun go to at night? Volume 4 Number 421)

The Prophet asked me at Sunset, "Do you know where the Sun goes (at the
time
of Sunset)?" I replied, "Allah and His Apostle know better." He said,
"It
goes (i.e. travels) till it prostrates Itself underneath the Throne and
takes the permission to rise again, and it is permitted and then (a
time
will come when) it will be about to prostrate itself but its
prostration
will not be accepted, and it will ask permission to go on its course
but it
will not be permitted, but it will be ordered to return whence it has
come
and so it will rise in the west. And that is the interpretation of the
Statement of Allah: "And the Sun Runs its fixed course For a term
(decreed).
that is The Decree of (Allah) The Exalted in Might, The All-Knowing."

What would you understand from the speech of Muhammad, who is
considered by
the Muslim as the greatest (***!!!***) scientists and philosopher ever
the
world produced ? Is it that "the Sun prostrates underneath the throne
of
Allah at night" should be considered as a scientific fact according to
the
knowledge of modern science or does it just resembles the inaccurate
scientific knowledge of the ancient Arabs?


MY CHALLENGE
The Muslims who still believe that the Qur'an is unique, the Qur'an is
amazing, the Qur'an is miracle, the Quran is scientific, the Quran is
accurate....... for them I place a simple challenge here:

In Arabic "ARD" means the Earth and "FALAK" is rotation/movement. Can
you
show me any of the verses from the Qur'an that contains these two words
one
after another ?


I'm sure that you will not be able to because it is not stated anywhere
in
the Qur'an. I give you my challenge is this regard : If you can prove
it,
I'll apologize to you all for my previous misconceptions, delete this
page
from the World Wide Web and convert to Islam at once.

"An unbiased study of Quran shows that far from being a "miracle" that
book
is a hoax. Once Quran is scrutinized with rational thinking, almost
every
sentence proves to be false. Quran is replete with scientific heresies,
historic blunders, mathematical mistakes, logical absurdities and
grammatical errors. Could possibly the author of this Universe be as
ignorant as it appears to be in Quran?" --- Dr. Ali Sina




CONCLUSION

Some readers may think that I am against the Qur'an because I was born
into
a different religion. This is not true (although I was born in a Hindu
family, I identify myself as an Atheist and I do not hold any specific
(so
called) religious values (for details please read some of my posts in
mukto-mona discussion forum). I used some of the verses of the Qur'an
and
the Hadith as examples because of the claims of some so-called
scientists
and philosopher of Islam regarding the scientific accuracies of Qur'an
on a
regular basis. Frankly speaking, every divine(?) scripture such as the
Bible, the Gita and the Vedas hold the same kind of scientific
misconceptions. For example here I quote some verses from the Bible and
the
Vedas to illustrate the same misconception (The Earth is fixed and the
Sun
rotates):
"The Earth is permanently established. It will not move"
[PSLAMS-93/1,96/10
and 104/5]

or,
"Sabita made this Earth fixed by different devices (like hills and
mountains) and sustains sky without pillars so that it does not move"
[RIK
VEDA]
or,
"The sky is immovable, the Earth is immovable and these mountains are
also
immovable" [RIK VEDA 10-173-4] etc.

Actually, as I explained before, people of the ancient world did not
have
proper scientific knowledge, they had numerous wrong concepts about our
solar system - They erroneously believed that the Earth is fixed and is
the
center of the universe, while the Sun, moon and the planets move around
the
Earth. Their fallacious reasoning made them conclude that the sky is a
canopy of the Earth and can sustain itself without pillars by the grace
of
God (see the verses that I quoted above) and the firm mountains have
been
created by God to prevent the Earth from shaking - beliefs which are
not
true. So the ancient books like the Quran, the Bible, the Gita, the
Mohabharat and the Vedas etc. which are written by ancient people are
not
free from scientific misconceptions, flaws and contradictions.

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Regarding Israel, GOD said: "I will bless those who bless you, and I
will
curse him who curses you. All of the families of the earth will be
blessed
in you."
(Genesis 12:3) <== (this is why the "Islamic world" is in ruins)

Regarding the reestablishment of Israel, GOD said: Now therefore thus
saith
the Lord, the God of Israel . . . Behold, I will gather them out of all
the
countries, whither I have driven them, in mine anger . . . and I will
bring
them again unto this place, and I will cause them to dwell safely: and
they
shall be my people and I will be their God .
.. . (Deuteronomy 32:36-38) <== (this explains the miracle "rebirth" of
Israel in 1948)

God Bless Israel!

God Bless America!

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