Re: Senior US Democrat calls for immediate US withdrawal from Iraq
- From: lanman <xlanmanx@xxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 03:34:53 -0800
On 17 Nov 2005 20:31:41 -0800, "1MAN4ALL" <forahmad@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sayid Abu Khamr al-Murtad (Abdul-Khinzeer al-Mushrik) wrote:
>> 1MAN4ALL wrote:
>> > I heard that news conference on the radio this afternoon, and let me
>> > say that I have never heard a clearer message coming from a Congressman
>> > or Senator on the Iraq war. He was clearheaded, did not mince his
>> > words, and sounded remarkably sincere. We need more Democrats like him,
>> > people who are not afraid of telling the truth, which seems to be in
>> > short supply at the White House.
>> While I was strongly opposed to this war, and continue to believe it
>> was a mistake, I do not think calling for an immediate withdrawal
>> constitutes being "clearheaded" or telling the truth. As I have said
>> before, this is a mess created by the United States, and it seems the
>> U.S. has to make a real effort to clean it up.
The Dhimmis smell blood. They know Bush plans to reduce the troop
level in the next year anyway, thus they are ramping up so that they
can claim they pressured Bush to withdraw. Sort of reminds me of the
way "Palestinians" act when Israel says it's withdrawing from a
>The US cannot clean up this mess because the US is no longer welcome in
The US military cannot police an insurgency in a foreign country while
trying to win hearts and minds. The US could revert to war mode and
allow soldiers to do the job they're acutally trainied for, ie, to
kill and conquer an enemy.
and the more excuses it comes up to stay, the more it would be
>seen as an enemy occupier---a Western imperialistic power trying to
Ah, our little Arab imperialist pointing fingers in hopes of
deflecting his own motives.
>A civil war can happen even with the US presence, but I don't think it
>will. Arabs do fight among themselves but they also close ranks very
>fast. In Lebanon, things have cooled down so much that it's hard to
>believe that just few years ago Christians, Sunnis, Shias and the Druze
>were at each other's throat. Bahrain and Qatar have had small
>skirmishes over some islands but after the World Court ruled in
>Bahrain's favor, the two countries have been good friends. Arabs have a
>very strong sense of nationhood, and that eventually overcomes all
Things cool down rather fast because of a show of force and the threat
of mass murder, ethnic cleansing, or genocide. If the US had done the
same, things would be much cooler now.
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