Re: The koran is not above the law.




"Count 1" <omnipitus2002@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> "Bob Cooper" <rcooper1@xxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> > "Count 1" <omnipitus2002@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> > > Bouziane, a prayer leader in the Lyon suburb of Venissieux, said after
> the
> > > uproar broke out that he was only stating what was actually in the Koran
> and
> > > not giving his opinion.
> > >
> > > However, the French parliament moved quickly to approve a law making it
> > > easier to expel foreign imams suspected of preaching radical views such
> as
> > > second-class status for women or hatred of Jews.
> >
> > Hmmm. Well, like the man said, he's only, "stating what was actually
> > in the Koran and not giving his opinion." He is correct. If we follow
> > that to it's logical conclusion, where does that leave us?
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> It leaves us with the moral authority to demand that Muslims reject parts of
> the Quran if they want to continue to live in significantly more desirable
> western countries. If they see their time in the west as an opportunity to
> convince people that beating your wife is part of god's divine justice then
> they can go home.
>
> And if this is their home - they were born here - then they have to live
> with the consequences of expressing a legal opinion that can be interpreted
> as incitement to violence.

I think most Muslims in the west "reject" parts of the Quran in the
sense that they have to in order to live as minorities in western
society. By that, I mean that they understand that wife beating,
amputating the hands of thiefs, multiple wives, etc. are socially
unacceptable, and in most cases illegal. And, if I am not mistaken,
they are religiously permitted to take that position out of necessity,
because, as residents of non-Muslim countries they are considered
to be under duress, so to speak.

Apparently this guy is unwilling to play the game, and they're going
to boot him for it. Good. But, when it comes down to it, I doubt that
the actual views of the vast majority of those who *are* playing
the game vary much from his. Not really.


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