New walls in just 52 days? Ridiculous!
- From: "Lars Wilson" <siaxares@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 15:55:06 -0500
Please note that the WTS needs to confirm that the "city" which it connects
to the walls of Jerusalem were not rebuilt until the 20th of Artaxerxes,
long after the temple was completed in the 6th of Darius. Darius allegedly
ruled 36 years, followed by a 21-year rule of Xerxes, then another 20 years
for Artaxerxes. So that's 30 plus 21 plus 20, which is 71 years. That is,
no wall was built around Jerusalem up to 71 years after the temple was
completed. So the WTS wants us to think the temple was completed in a wide
open city with no walls, thus anybody could just walk right up to the temple
and into the city.
But this is absolutely necessary if you want to date the 20th of Artaxerxes
to 455 BCE to fulfill the 70 weeks prophecy. The prophecy is linked to when
the "word goes forth to rebuild Jerusalem." It doesn't say "walls", but it
doesn't say temple either. So basically, the WTS needs us to believe that
the "temple" was not technically considered part of the "city" rebuilding.
But the walls were. That up until now, Jehovah's invisible protection was
protecting the city.
Then for some reason, all of a sudden, apparently Jehovah's invisible
protection ran out and now the Jews were under attack. Nehemiah rushes
there to manage the situation and seeing the wall, still destroyed by the
Babylonians and not rebuilt in all this time, not cleaned up, decides it is
time to rebuild the wall. So he does so in record time! Only 52 DAYS!!!
Now is it really REASONABLE that Nehemiah built a double wall around the
entire city in just 52 days? Could builders in the modern world today
build a wall around Jerusalem in just 52 days? That's less than two
months!!! What kind of a wall could that have been. Yet the SUBLIMINAL
MIND-CONTROLLING skills learned from the Mysteries by the WTS suggests that
there is archaeological evidence that the walls were hurriedly thrown up, as
if to confirm the 52 days was a reality.
And everybody buys this because they don't think about it. But is the
Bible wrong or is the WTS just misrepresenting what the Bible says? Well,
YOU DECIDE. Let's consider Ezra 4:11
11 this is a copy of the letter that they sent concerning it:
"To Ar·ta·xerx´es the king your servants, the men beyond the River: And
now 12 let it become known to the king that the Jews who came up here from
you to us have come to Jerusalem. They are building the rebellious and bad
city, and they proceed to finish the walls and to repair the foundations.
Now this is a letter to the king from the enemy of the Jews. But the king
had his own spies and reporters. Is it reasonable that these enemies would
LIE to the king about what the Jews were doing? Of course not. They were
concerned about this at this point, because once the walls were finished the
Jews could lock them out and rebel with no problem. Note also that this
says they were rebuilding the "city". WHAT? And they actually say the
walls were FINISHED. So we know now that not only were the walls already
rebuilt but they were finished even before the temple was completed. This
is during the reign of Bardiya/Smerdis who ruled a few months before Darius
I came to the throne. The temple work began in the 2nd year of Darius and
was completed in his 6th year.
So what about the 52-day wall of Nehemiah's day? What Nehemiah did was
simply REPAIR the new wall that had been damaged and by now, many years
later, was in disrepair. Jerusalem was not a wide open city for all those
years. The Jews didn't decide for some reason not to rebuld the wall of
their city and only the temple in the middle of a wide-open city, as the WTS
wants to try and brainwash you into thinking occurred. It makes no sense.
Of course they would have had a wall.
What Nehemiah actually did was have the decorative stones on the outside of
the walls replaced. These stones had been beaten off or fallen off over
time and the wall looked unkempt. That's why different sections of the wall
were assigned to different ones. Further evidence the wall was already
there was because some sections were assigned to persons whose homes were on
top of the wall. They were to repair the sections in front of their own
NEH 3:10 And at their side Je·da´iah the son of Ha·ru´maph did repair work
in front of his own house; and at his side Hat´tush the son of
Hash·ab·nei´ah did repair work.
20 After him Bar´uch the son of Zab´bai worked with fervor [and] repaired
another measured section, from the Buttress as far as the entrance of the
house of E·li´a·shib the high priest.
21 After him Mer´e·moth the son of U·ri´jah the son of Hak´koz repaired
another measured section, from the entrance of the house of E·li´a·shib as
far as the end of E·li´a·shib's house.
22 And after him the priests, men of the [Jordan] District, did repair
work. 23 After them Benjamin and Has´shub did repair work in front of their
own house. After them Az·a·ri´ah the son of Ma·a·sei´ah the son of
A·na·ni´ah did repair work close by his own house. 24 After him Bin´nu·i the
son of Hen´a·dad repaired another measured section, from the house of
Az·a·ri´ah as far as the Buttress and as far as the corner.
The WTS encourages us to think on the scriptures and to imagine the reality
of the events in the Bible. So how do we imagine these verses with those
repairing the wall in front of their own homes? Where were these homes?
Were they on the ground along the torn down walls of 157 years ago when
Babylon destroyed them? Plus the prophecy begins when the "city" begins to
be rebuilt. They want to exclude the temple as technically part of the city,
but what about all these homes and other structures? All so close to the
perimeter of the torn down wall? Hardly! These homes were actually
incorporated into the Wall and were on top of the wall. So when it says "in
front of his house" it is talking about the wall in front of and below that
home that is on top of the wall.
So the new wall was already rebuilt. We have lots of evidence it was there,
and once we understand that, we have a realistic context for what Nehemiah
did with the people in 52 days. They were simply repairing the wall
sections, replacing the decorative stones that had fallen off. It was
laborious and challenging and even dangerous as the workers had to be armed
since they were unprotected outside the wall, but they got the work done.
Even the repair work of the wall around the entire city was an amazing
accomplishment in just 52 days.
QUESTION FOR JWS FOLLOWING BLINDLY: Now one question that must be asked by
JWs of themselves, is do they really think the WTS has thought of this?
They palm off the 20th of Artaxerxes and the command to rebuild the city
onto JWs as the fulfillment of the 70 weeks prophecy which begins in 455
BCE. But they are well aware other parts of the "city" and the "wall" had
already been rebuilt by the 20th of Artaxerxes. Even Nehemiah's family had
a "palace" there already. So the WTS and GB know very well trying to have
the 20th of Artaxerxes fulfill that prophecy doesn't work, since it is clear
the "city" began to be rebuilt long before the 20th of Artaxerxes! And,
indeed, the temple is part of the city, is it not? Of course!
So when does the prophecy start? It must start when they first began to
rebuild, which is the 1st of Cyrus. There is no alternative.
Does that fulfill the prophecy? Yes. But it requires you to face reality
and date the 1st of Cyrus to 455 BCE. We have to do that anyway because of
the VAT4956! It contains two references to 511 BCE otherwise dated to 568
BCE. The double-dating proves the timeline was revised and provides us with
the original date for year 37 of Nebuchadnezzar. Once we have that
correction in place, we can calculate the year of the last deportation in
year 23, which is exactly 70 years from the 1st of Cyrus. 525 BCE would be
the 23rd year when 511 BCE is year 37 per the VAT4956. Thus 70 years later
is 455 BCE.
HOW LONG TO REMAIN SELF DECEIVED? So I'm thinking here that sure we didn't
notice these things before, but there are a LOT OF SMART PEOPLE here.
Educated people. Reflective people discussing quite adequately all kinds of
complex topics. Why is it that not a single one of them can figure out the
WTS is lying about when the walls were "finished"? Why can't they see 52
days is not enough time to build a double-wall around Jerusalem. Why can't
they realize that it is completely stupid to think the Jews would just build
a new temple in the middle of a wide-open city and not want a new wall to be
Is there any doubt as to why Jehovah has set the destruction of the WTS
along with Christendom in the lake of fire? It's not just not understanding
the Bible, but ignoring all the evidence in place to have the truth. It
means ignoring those things and then using clever language and deception to
keep their followers believing lies to maintain the 1914 doctrine.
How long will people pretend they can't understand cryptic history? They
are so smart in other areas, why not this one? Take this quote from Plato
A story is told of Plato giving a reading of his Phaedo, a purported record
of Socrates' last day. The dialogue is moving and solemn. As Plato was
reading, however, his audience gradually melted away. In the end, Aristotle
alone was left. Probably fictitious, the anecdote was invented to express a
Aristotle was, in fact, spellbound by the Socratic doctrine of immortality
as expounded by Plato. It not only interested him intellectually but also
absorbed him emotionally.
Here you have an example of a cryptic reference. A story about Plato
reading about "Phaedo" that connects to Aristotle's interest in Phaedo.
What is so fascinating about Phaedo for Aristotle? If you don't know the
background, this seems simply like a passing story. But the fact is, that
Phaedo was the adolescent lover-protege of Socrates. Phaedo was about ten
years old when he became a charge of Socrates. In those days, a young man
became the lover of his mentor. Socrates died when Phaedo was about 18 and
then he became a student of Socrates. Guess what? Aristotle was orphaned
around 10 years of age as well and he ended up becoming a philsopher as
well, trained by the person whom he was fostered by. Then when his foster
parent died at around 18, he became a student of Plato as well. One would
think, though, that the protege of Socrates would have become a famous
philsopher in his own right, correct? Sure! Well he did. Because Phaedo
was invented when the history of Socrates along with the Peloponnesian War
got moved back in time when the eclipse of 402 BCE was replaced with the
eclipse of 431 BCE in the revision! What happend was that in the revised
history, Socrates dies in 399 BCE some 15 years before Aristotle is born!
Aristotle was actually Socrates' lover and protege. But now he is dead 15
years before Aristotle is born. So the masterminds of the revision,
Xenophon and Plato, created the character of Phaedo for the telling of the
story of Socrates since Aristotle was not now historically connected to
But when we correct the eclipse to its original time, then Socrates dies at
69 in 366 BCE, which was when Phaedo would have been 18? Guess who was 18
in 366 BCE? Right, Aristotle. Aristotle was born in 384 BCE. So NOW this
little scenario of why Aristotle is so fascinated by the story of Phaedo
makes sense. It's a cryptic reference to the connection between these two
historical figures. So if you know the facts, it is obvious why the
reference is there. If you don't, it's just a story with no more than its
This is just one of many references from the Greek history that more than
establishes 56 fake years were added to Greek history. But where are all
the SMART PEOPLE? Where are all the university scholars who should have
figured this out?
I mention this because of the INCOMPETENCE now, with the available research
that proves the revisions and brings a realistic context to dating the 1st
of Cyrus to 455 BCE. The discrepancy is there for a reason. The Bible is
true and when you investigate the NB and Greek and Persian history and
archaeology then the facts come right forth and everything fits together
again. But for some reason, people insist on "playing dumb" when its
convenient, including the WTS, which loves the darkness.
But that's okay. JUDGMENT DAY is coming. Those who could have known and
should have known better will have a higher judgment. Nobody gets away with
anything. It's all being documented.
http://www.geocities.com/siaxares/709guide.html (Correcting the timeline)
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