Re: Unconditional love?

"Rescue" <bigbadbarry@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Andrew W wrote:
You are 'doing religion' I can assure you.

i have never been called to religion, I am called to be faithful to the
one who is faitful to me. YOU WISH it was a religion. religion will
kill a man

Do you follow the Bible?


The word of faith stands on God's word.

Prove that the Bible is God's word.

Prove that it's not, you can't!

Nor can you prove that it is. You guys made the claim so the onus is on
you.

every promise he will keep

How can you know this? Are you clairvoyant?

I think you conscience is not clear friend.

I think you've been indoctrinated. Such belief can only come from
indoctrination.


What about those who carried out the crusades and inquisitions?
Weren't they "making a move with the Bible"?
What about Jim Jones, David Koresh etc?

so you'd forfeit eternal life for the ignorance of some?
what a pitiful excuse

Your book based religion has tempted you with the 'eternal life' carrot I
see.
Most religions have this kind of carrot. They use it to gain followers.


Why would it be a sin to have a lack of faith?
What if you happen to put faith in the wrong thing?

you are commanded to believe in what
you cannot see..

Commanded? What happened to free will?

you shouldn't have drove the nails into his hands

Who's hands? I did no such thing.

you should not have chucked the spear into his side

What are you talking about?

but never mind the choices we left God with
what choices did we give him?

It is us who gives God free choice now?
This is getting bizarre.


it's a relationship, when you come to the knowledge of the truth, it is
going to tear your heart wide open, these things you have misunderstood
about him who died for us.

No, its you who's been indoctrinated.


Who would force someone to believe in something invisible and
unverifiable?
You cannot evaluate something until you can see and interact with it.

well there you go, you want to walk on water, but your scared to get
out of the boat
but you blame blame blame...
you blame ignorant folk like keresh, you blame God for not showing
himself to you

I'm not blaming anyone for anything, only figuratively.
If God planned for all this to happen then its all happening exactly
according to his plan.
Therefore no one is blameworthy of anything because nothing has gone wrong.
Its a perfect plan by a perfect being.


he said, blessed are those that have seen me and believe on me, but
even more blessed are the ones who have not seen, but believe.

That's just another Christian fraternity slogan. Christianity is full of
them.


Im tellin ya, all you need is the word of faith.

If you will confess with you mouth that Jesus is Lord
and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will
be saved from the wrath to come,

Jesus is your Lord. I don't need a Lord. I'm responsible for my own
reality.

What wrath is coming? This wrath has been predicted at every turn of the
century going back more than two thousand years and each time it didn't
happen.
And what kind of perfect and altruistic being needs to use wrath? Wrath is
the tool of the evil demigods to create fear and suffering.

you will be carried out of this world
when he returns. He's just coming back next time,...just long enough to
gather his own...we're going back and prepare for war..and only God
knows the half

You really need to get a life.


Only puppet masters stay behind curtains while keeping their victims
hanging
on strings.

the problem is that he is too holy for you and me
we are not able to bear his presence

everyone that has ever reported to have seen and angel from the Lord,
or the angel of the Lord, the men fell down as dead. yeah...we can't
bear holiness in these vessels of clay.

I've had the power of God on me so strong...I've gone around people,
and never saying a word, not one single word, they start telling me how
they want to be saved.

I've thrown devils out of men and women...I will not be brought under
the power of any...
you're living beneath you priveledge...

have childlike faith.
try him
taste and see that the Lord is good...

You are obviously under the control of a paranormal entity which you call
"The Lord".
I think you are possessed.
And of course it's going to be good to you. As long as you continue allowing
it to use you to carry out its deeds in the material realm it will treat you
very good.
Such possessions are quite common.
Humans are very easy to manipulate because many are so dumb and gullible.
They're like dogs who are always eager to do tricks for rewards.


hang out just a tad more...keep on...you're almost there

I bind the lies of satan in your life, I pray a hedge about you, that
God would direct your paths..that he would damn up your paths, except
the one that leads to life...

your angry about not having a choice..but look what choice God had.

Our choices are either join or burn...it is true...yes you have a
choice
but given the choices..man is tempted to be angry.

Hell was not created for man, but for satan and the 1/3 of the angels
that rebelled with him in heaven...there was a terrible war.

We chose to disobey,

If its all about obedience then it's basically just slavery.

we chose to do our own thang

Umm, that's called free will.


why would anyone choose darkness over light...
I don't have a problem with my choices...why?

You don't know what you've chosen. You haven't done any research about the
true origin of your book based religious fraternity. If you did you'd be
shocked at what you've gotten yourself into.


because he made me, he created me, and he's got nothing but love for
me.

You don't know who created you.


It's a good thing I love the Lord, he happens to have excellent plans
in store for me
what else am I doing but wrecking the world

hating, lying, cheating, stealing, murdering, warring and raging

You're doing all those things? Shame on you.

<rest of sermon to self snipped>

I hope you have a good life with your Lord.

--
Andrew W.

?Belief is the death of intelligence. As soon as one believes a doctrine of
any sort, or assumes certitude, one stops thinking about that aspect of
existence.?
~ Robert Anton Wilson

"The Bible tells us to be like God, and then on page after page it describes
God as a mass murderer. This may be the single most important key to the
political behaviour of Western Civilization.?
~ Robert Anton Wilson

Religion Exposed!
http://members.optusnet.com.au/~ajwerner


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