Re: RC doctrine ...

On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 02:59:34 -0800, r@xxxxxxxxx (?R. L. Measures) wrote:

In article <jlkmn4plrjmtidv06hk3gkbu2thecaun7a@xxxxxxx>, duke
<duckgumbo32@xxxxxxx> wrote:

On Sat, 24 Jan 2009 04:48:05 -0800, r@xxxxxxxxx (?R. L. Measures) wrote:

? For example: the gospel according to the Disciple John is what
witnesses to John's lectures reported to scribes that John said Jesus
taught.
Yep, that too.
? that was how the Gospels came to be written.

All 4 gospels represent the practices, beliefs, actions and the
religious habits
of the new Christian people

? New is right. The christ doctrine doctrine was not even proposed until
early in the 2nd century.

Which doctrine is that?

? The perfect sacrifice that washes away sin doctrine,

There you go. Dogma kicked in on Good Friday, AD33.

, including the gospels writers themselves,
written/published some 30-60 years after Christ ascended to his Father.

? If the Roman church's Jesus = God doctrine is true, did he not ascend
to Himself?

Nope, the Son is not the Father.

? Does not the one true church teach that it was God himself on the cross?

Nope, the man Jesus.

Likewise Paul's conversion and teachings by Christ and going forward
to be a
major power is the spread of Christianity.

? Saul-Paul was pro-ritual sacrifice.

Actually, Saul was animal sacrifice until he converted, then Paul understood
that Jesus' sacrifice was once and for all.

? Sacrifice is defined as permanent loss. This boat doesn't float.

Nope. If I fast for 3 days, it is a sacrifice. Now I may have permanently lost
food for 3 days as Jesus did for 3 days, but then my sacrifice ends and I return
to eating.

The Dukester, American-American
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"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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