Re: Atheists and Reason
- From: jwsheffield@xxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: 4 May 2006 09:47:20 -0700
George wrote:
"Freddy X" <dancesucka@xxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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For now, I'm going to accept the Big Bang Theory. In that little ball
of energy was the stuff of the universe. The stuff always existed; no
need of a creator but the stuff created everything else such as the
first forms of life. If a theist can believe God had no creator, then I
can believe the stuff of the universe had no creator.
Your position is philosophically untenable. Even if there was a little ball
of matter that was at the origin of the Big Bang, it had to exist somehow,
and it had to exist somewhere. What is that somehow and what is that
somewhere? The ancient Greeks philosophers long ago arrived at the
conclusion that there had to be a prime mover. Now, we may or may not decide
to call it "God", but it's illogical to not believe there was and is
something beyond what we can understand.
Ultimately though, everyone must decide on their own what spirituality they
need in life. Even atheism, if honest and philosophically coherent, requires
a leap of faith of some kind. An atheist who does not know the philosophy of
his unbelief is no further ahead than the Christian who doesn't know the
philosophical underpinnings of his Faith.
George
The problem with saying the big bang
just happened(i.e. a sigularity) is that it
contradicts the first Law of Thermodynamics
inertia, that's why many scientists who were
unbelievers resisted the theory. They relized the
only rational alternative is that the big bang occured
because God willed it.
Jim
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