Re: Regarding Alan Ferris

On 5 Apr 2006 12:30:30 -0700, "Joseph Geloso" <josephfg@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:


Alan Ferris wrote:
On 5 Apr 2006 07:11:53 -0700, "Joseph Geloso" <josephfg@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

Alan Ferris wrote:
On 3 Apr 2006 20:33:59 -0700, "Joseph Geloso" <josephfg@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

Alan Ferris replies to my posts for one and only one purpose: to
discredit anything and everything I might say on this newsgroup

Lying about me again,

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No, that is the truth. It is what you are doing right now.

No, I am simply pointing out the fact that you are dishonest and
proving it.

You cannot prove what is not true.


That is why you keep removing the parts that show it, that in itself
shows your dishonesty, the fact you cannot face it.

No, I snip the bulk of what you write for the reasons I already gave.



To that end, he quotes certain erroneous statements I have made in the
past, statements that I freely admit having made and freely admit
having been mistaken about.

Hang on, the claims came from George.....the man who is meant to be
repeating Gods words..... not your mistake surely....

Stated before the death of John Paul II:
"IF it is God's Gift of Understanding, and not a demonic deception,
THEN George will certainly be the next Pope. " - Joseph Geloso

Not because you said so, but because George claimed it.

No, that was me. George will be Pope, but not until after the Dogma of
the Children of Love is pronounced by Pope John Paul II, which event is
yet in the future. My mistake was in assuming that he would not die
first, a natural assumption from a human point of view but not the
truth.

No, Georges letter claimed that the Pope would soon come to America
and that the Secret Service would be responsible for his safety, you
cannot deny this as it is on your own website.

Why would I even want to deny such a simple fact?


Of course, this clarification will not be enough for you, and you will
either twist it to paint me as a liar the way you have been doing, or
dig up some other error I have made in the past, again, with the
singular purpose of painting me as a liar.

No the clarification came after the death of the pope, when you and
George had to try and pretend the previous comments no longer apply.

Your statement is absurd, since everything that has come from George's
pen is going to come to pass, or is coming to pass now, or has already
come to pass.
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So it is absurd for you to write, "...previous comments no longer
apply." If you are talking about things I've written, everyone already
knows that I can make mistakes, and if you are talking about the
locutions, all of them are still in full force.

As just one example, the Pope - John Paul II, not Benedict XVI - will
soon come to Boston and to Kennebunkport, and the United States Secret
Service will be on hand to protect him. Nothing has chnaged about any
of that, so I don't see how you can possibly say _we_ have a need to
pretend anything. It is you who are pretending.

1992 that was written.....the Pope is not soon coming, he is now dead
and it has been over 14 years....are you now going to add your version
where Gods infinite timing comes into play where you claim "soon" can
be translated to anything God wishes...

How soon you broke your oath....how soon you returned to lying about
me when you made an oath not to....how come your oath means so little
when god commanded you to keep them?

As you are probably already aware, my God commanded me not to make any
oaths at all, and, I haven't. I said I would stop posting about this,
and I was wrong about that. I am continuing, as you can see. I'm not
going to stop, regardless of what I said. I changed my mind, because I
recognize that the promise I made - which was not a sworn oath - was
rash, and I should not have made such a promise.

You, on the other hand, are doing _exactly_ what I said you are doing -
nothing you have posted in reply to anything I have written has any
other aim than to discredit anything and everything I write. That is
nothing more than your hatred, Alan, primarily for God and His Church,
and secondarily for me.

Then you accuse yourself of discrediting you. I have simply asked
questions and repeated words you and George have said. If you feel
you are being discredited, then it is your own words that are doing
it,

Stated before the death of John Paul II:
"IF it is God's Gift of Understanding, and not a demonic deception,
THEN George will certainly be the next Pope. " - Joseph Geloso

"But if the Pope (John Paul II) only dies before his pronouncement,
then I will only take down my web site as I promised I would, and I
will not post any more on this newsgroup. You will never hear from me
again about it, if he dies before pronouncing it, but I will still
believe it, because it is the truth. I believe there is a next life --
maybe the pronouncement is not supposed to come until then. I have
already faced the possiblility within myself and steeled myself for
that eventuality, should it ever happen." Joseph Geloso 23 Nov 2003

I feely acknowledge both that I wrote the above and that I was in error.

But you claimed numerous times to have been given god's gift of
understanding and that you where a prophet.....how could either allow
you to bring falsehoods to people? Why would god want his prophet to
deceive?

"I am a Christian Prophet." - Joseph Geloso 2/7/04

"When that time shall be, is known to God, and to His Prophets, as He
promised, 'the Lord God doth nothing without revealing his secret to
his servants the prophets' (Amos 3:7).... but I say to you that I am a
Prophet" - Joseph Geloso 1/7/-4

So how come the Pope's were not revealed this secret, are you denying
they are gods servant, or was god not keeping to his word?

I leave it to the Holy Father to declare whether or not my prophecy is
authentic, but I say to you that I am a Prophet, and the Two Witnesses
are here now.

Was George in error too?

" The Roman Catholic Church is spiritual, Prince Bandar. And now,
that reality will be presented to the world. Those members of the
upper membership of the Catholic Hierarchy, of whom this letter
speaks, are being set aside now. "

No such people have been set aside....did God of George get this
wrong?

None of the claims George made about Saudi Arabia have come to
fruition...so who lied, George or God?

--
Alan "Ferrit" Ferris

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