Re: The answer to all the world's problems.
- From: "Joseph Geloso" <josephfg@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: 28 Mar 2006 04:36:17 -0800
Bonnie B wrote:
On 27 Mar 2006 12:48:54 -0800, the faaaaabulous supreme deity
Tlahuizcalpantecuhtli, Ruler of the heavens and host of fab parties,
opened the heavens and shone his light upon the wisdom of "Joseph
Geloso" <josephfg@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Bonnie Bitch wrote:
On 27 Mar 2006 08:38:34 -0800, the faaaaabulous supreme deity
Tlahuizcalpantecuhtli, Ruler of the heavens and host of fab parties,
opened the heavens and shone his light upon the wisdom of "Joseph
Geloso" <josephfg@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Bonnie Bitch wrote:
On 27 Mar 2006 07:41:31 -0800, the faaaaabulous supreme deity
Tlahuizcalpantecuhtli, Ruler of the heavens and host of fab parties,
opened the heavens and shone his light upon the wisdom of "Joseph
Geloso" <josephfg@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Bonnie Bitch wrote:
On 26 Mar 2006 21:50:02 -0800, the faaaaabulous supreme deity
Tlahuizcalpantecuhtli, Ruler of the heavens and host of fab parties,
opened the heavens and shone his light upon the wisdom of "Joseph
Geloso" <josephfg@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Bonnie Bitch wrote:
<snip>
Well, then, if you christstains would get your moral busybody noses
out of the lives of non-believers and GLBT folks, then I wouldn't have
to get personal.
<snip>
But God takes your sins against Him very personally,
But honey -- it's not God sticking his moral busybody nose into the
lives of non-believers.
No, actually, its you, sticking your immoral busybody nose into the
lives of Catholics.
Another christstain lie.
I am not the one telling people how to live, think, marry, pray, vote,
invest, educate our children and, now, die. That's all your cult's
doing.
You are telling Catholics to stop preaching the Gospel, part of which
is, "go and sin no more."
You are telling non-members of your cult that their lives are subject
to your approval, your rules, and your voodoo.
Not my rules. God's rules.
Except it's not God saying it, or God enforcing it, or God responding
to this post.
Nevertheless, it is His rules to which I refer when I tell you how to
live your life. So it is not me, but Him through me, who is giving the
orders here. I am subject to the same rules that you are, the only
difference being that I acknowledge the fact and you do not.
It is a bit inconvenient for me to live my
life according to His rules too, but I am willing to make the effort.
I am under no obligation whatsoever to follow your voodoo, myths,
dogma, or other BS. I am under no obligation to accede to your cult's
crap.
I do,however, have an obligation to myself to live my life as
ethically (or not) as I see fit.
That's not an obligation, Mark. That's your own whim. Obligation
implies duty, whereas you are invoking liberty to the point of license.
*I* am in charge of my own life.
"I will not serve."
You
are not.
Thank God for that! I have enough to deal with trying to order my own
life!
Preach the gospel does not mean "Do as we say or we'll make your lives
miserable."
If by making your life miserable, I can cause you to stop sinning, and
thus save your immortal soul, then that is just what I'm going to do.
Your right to shove your religious bull*** down others' throats ends
where our throats begin.
Again - and rhetorically, since we both know you love to be here - feel
free to leave.
Ditto for you, since this is a public forum and anyone with a computer
and net access is perfectly free to respond.
If opposing views offend you, then join a moderated group.
Until then, live with it. You don't own the forum. (Well start there
and work our way up to "You assholes don't own the planet or control
its populace.")
But hey -- that is a step up from the good old days, when it was, "Do
as we say or we'll kill you dead, scumbags."
It's not gonna happen.
I don't care if you preach the gospel, Einstein's ToR, or Roentgen's
mother's laundry list.
Yes you do. You hate the Gospel.
Another christstain lie, from a simpering moron christstain (pardon
the redundancy) who can't tell the difference between themselves,
their crappy behavior, and a concept.
What I hate is when you asslicking, analingualizing schmucks claim
that your Book o' Blood is reason enough to try to force everyone to
obey you. *** that. And *** your sick cult, too.
Besides, there's no sane reason to hate a book, even if it was forged
and fabricated, culled form other societies' myhts, has no historical
value whatsoever, is a pack of lies, and claims that bats are birds.
I hate what it represents and what it leads you dumbfucks to do.
The Gospel is not a book per se, though there are four books in the
Bible that bear the name "The Gospel..." The Gospel is the Good News of
the Redemption; it is that which calls us to God. You are called to
God, and you hate being so called, because that obliges you in the true
sense. That calling would call you out of yourself and into God, and
you have already committed your life to a different master, namely your
self.
Preach the gospel does not mean "Do as we say or we'll make your lives
miserable."
But hey -- that is a step up from the good old days, when it was, "Do
as we say or we'll kill you dead, scumbags."
If hearing that you are a sinner and you'd better convert makes you
miserable, then the Gospel makes you miserable.
No, that's all your doing.
Don't blame me for your misery. I'm just the messenger, here.
Typical christstain -- abdicate responsibility for their actions.
I certainly did not create the Gospel, nor do I have any desire of
myself to make others miserable. That is God doing that to me; it is
His action upon me, and if He so wills, through me.
The reality is, of
course, that you are miserable and the Gospel is the beginning of a
better way of life, if you could only drop your stupid pride.
I'm about as miserable as Mae West at an orgy, sweetie.
Where is Mae West now?
I have a great life. Why *** it up again with KKKatholic hatred,
nastiness, and voodoo?
Now, when you stop sticking your collective moral busybody noses into
the lives of non-members of your cult, then we won't have to gripe
about it.
No one cares what you believe.
Obviously you do, or you wouldn't be here.
Actually, I don't care what you believe. It's your collective shitty
behavior that affects my life. Knock it off.
Feel free to leave here and never come back. Or else, deal with the
fact that you are going to be hearing about the sinfulness of your life
here. Your choice.
Public forum, sweetie. I have as much right to be here as anyone else.
You don't like seeing opposing views? Then FO and find a moderated
group.
You don't bother me too much. I am simply saying that, for your own
comfort, since that is your primary consideration in life, if you can't
stand the heat get out of the kitchen. I have no problem answering your
selfish tripe literally until Kingdom Come. I see that I already wrote
"your choice," so your defense of your rights is a bit disingenuous. I
am not challenging your rights.
But your right to your religious ends
where others' civil rights and lives begin.
We disagree.
Oh, well. Damn shame we don't live in a Catholic theocracy, though,
'cause then your bitching might mean something.
It's O.K. We live on Earth, and the Earth belongs to God. Move to
another planet if you don't like it. God owns this one.
Prove it.
"The Bible said so" doesn't count.
"My cult said so" doesn't count.
"I said so" doesn't count.
Proof, please, of the earthly, tangible, examinable, real variety.
TIA.
Pharoah had no doubts. Neither did Cyrus of Persia. When God proves it
to you, you will no longer have any doubts, either. Until then, you
have my word, the Church's word, and the Bible's word. Barring finding
out for yourself (which is the responsible thing to do), that's all
you're getting for now.
Until then, the planet's ours. <insert cackling here>
It is exactly like a minion to take the middle laugh.
And once again -- your right to shove your religious crap down others'
throats ends where others' throats begin.
Your right to leave this newsgroup remains intact, so I'm not too
worried about what you tell me are my rights.
And your right to FO and find a moderated group where you don't have
to see opposing views is all yours.
Yep.
Preach the gospel does not mean "Do as we say or we'll make your lives
miserable."
But hey -- that is a step up from the good old days, when it was, "Do
as we say or we'll kill you dead, scumbags."
Needless repetition indicates what? Idiocy?
On your part.
I'm not the one doing that.
And, in case you forgot, one of those civil rights is
freedom of speech, and another is freedom of press.
And I fully support both of them.
No you don't.
The *** I don't, you lying sack of ***.
Both of those rights benefit me, too, so it's in my best interest to
support them. For everyone.
Fair enough. I apologize. I was out of line.
I have an idea. To save typing time if nothing else, why don't you just
leave off telling me to stop preaching Christian morality, and I'll
leave off telling you to go find a different group. Face the fact that
I am not going to stop, and I for my part welcome your presence here.
(If nothing else it gives me a ready opponent.)
You don't want to hear about God's requirement for your
conversion from your sin.
I am sin free.
I can go out there and even suck *** for three days in a row and I'm
still not sinning (as long as I don't lie down>
There is no such thing as sin. It's something you evil fucks made up
to make people afraid of themselves. I am no longer afraid.
It is really too bad you never got past servile fear. I also am no
longer afraid, but for a different reason.
Of course, I do take into consideration that sucking *** for three
days in a row might be a bit of a strain on my oral pharynx and lips,
and that I'm really picky about what goes into my mouth. Plus, wanton
sex is just not my style, because of personal reasons.
But that all comes from ethics and self-awareness, two things you
christstains eschew as anathema. Your loss. babe.
Obviously you don't know the first thing about me. A free clue for you
would be that I have pursued Catholicism primarily as a means of
enlightenment. I seek to raise my consciousness and increase my
awareness, not the opposite as your lying words would have it.
But I can see that if you think you are sin free, you are about as
blind as you could possibly be. It's too bad, because there is a better
way. God Himself would make you actually sin-free in His sight, if you
would only let Him. But sadly, you want no part of that.
The only thing that's stopping you from
eliminating my freedom of speech in this regard is your own lack of
power to do anything about it.
Yet I'm powerful enough to "make you" read a book you don;t want to
read. LOL
Yes, because I allow myself to be subject to your desire in that.
Actually, there are two things stopping me from making you shut up:
1. My conscience
2. Laws against assault.
What the hell is a "conscience," Mr. there's-no-such-thing-as-a-sin?
Now, if I were to tell you to stop hounding me about this sin
nonsense, and you didn't, then it would be well within my power to
turn you in to <insert name of law enforcement agency, whose on-line
crime office knows me by face, after that stalking incident where I
was being stalked>.
And trust me -- they'd stop you in a heartbeat.
I may not be the one doing the stopping, but I can damn sure be the
one to start the ball rolling.
Go right ahead. Don't make idle threats. Test that power you think you
have. I don't think you have it.
Seriously. If you could get an injunction against me to stop posting
about conversion from sin in the Roman-Catholic newsgroup, then there
is something seriously fucked about the laws in this country. I already
knew that, but I still don't think it's gone quite that far.
However, freedom of speech does not mean "Christstains only, and
everyone else gets to shut the *** up."
No, indeed. Freedom of speech means we can have this little
interchange. I have not advised you to shut the *** up. I have advised
you that if you don't like what you're hearing, you are free to take
your sorry little bullshitting ass elsewhere.
Quit talking about yourself, hon. It makes you look crazy.
Well, we both know I already look crazy, regardless of what I say
directly about you.
And this has been delightful, but I am out of time for today.
Happy FOAD --
Such a nice sentiment. You are a peach!
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