Re: All Catholics (here) are liars

chuckles wrote:
> "Joseph Geloso" <josephfg@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>
> > chuckles wrote:
>
> > > "Joseph Geloso" <josephfg@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> > > > How many names? One? Or three? You can't answer because either answer
> > > > blows away your whole line of bullshit.
> > >
> > > You say that 1=3
>
> > No. When did I say that?
>
> Ah, so these "three persons" of the Godhead are of unequal rank?

No.

> So you're still a polytheist?

Not at all.

>
> > > and then in the next breath talk about bullshit?
>
> > Why lie about what I said?
>
> What you said is utterly confused and incomprehensible.

If it confuses you, consider that God "hath confused the proud in their
inmost thoughts."

> But then, that's the prime characteristic of the Trinity theory...

There is no theory. The Holy Trinity is God, and He has revealed
Himself as such.

>
> > > > But not to keep you in suspense: It is one Name, of three Persons. You
> > > > had it exactly backwards, above.
>
> > > Ah, so you're a polytheist then?
>
> > No, the Three Persons is One God.
>
> Ok, then what is your definition of "Person?"

Here you go:

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/11726a.htm

I have no reason to come up with any other definition than the Church
holds.

To sum up, a person is capable, at least in principle, of meaningfully
saying "I am..."

> Does this God of
> yours have multiple personalities that go by different names?

No. That would be an example of you applying your limited human error
to that which is beyond your comprehension.

> Or is it constantly morphing and un-morphing into these
> three separate entities at fantastic rates of speed? With the
> morph theory, maybe in one millisecond it's One God, and
> then in the next millisecond three Gods? Maybe that's how it's
> done! Hey, maybe I finally figured it out!

Don't bet on it. There were never three gods. There is only One, and He
is the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. And 3 != 1. There is (not
are) three Persons, one God.

>
> > That's why He is called the "Trinity."
>
> That's why we call Pauline theology utter nonsense.

Your erroneous choice.

>
> > > > Too bad you can't change the words
> > > > of the Scriptures, eh?
> > >
> > > Paul did it, and you believe him on no other evidence
> > > than that you're supposed to....
> >
> > What Saint Paul wrote _is_ Scripture.
>
> Only because the Roman Catholic Cult made it Scripture.

The Roman Catholic Church of course had God's Authority to pronounce
what was Scripture and what was not. So, sure, that's the only reason.
It's enough. In fact it is the only reason that would suffice. Holy
Scripture is all about God bringing His Church into existence.

> Jesus certainly didn't.

But of course He did. The Church is His Body.

> The original Christian Church in
> Jerusalem had little, if anything to do with Paul.

All of the members of the Church at Jerusalem were and are members of
the same Body of Christ that is the Church, just as Saint Paul was and
is, and wrote about it.

> Paul didn't
> know Jesus,

Most certainly he did.

> nor did he bother to learn from any of the other
> disciples. When the Romans put an end to the original church
> in Jerusalem, they later put a Pauline head on the decapitated
> trunk of this original church. What you're left with is a pile of
> Paul's made-up cult crap and stuff borrowed from other
> mediterranean mystery religions

Then you assert God's original Church is dead, contrary to the words of
Christ to Saint Peter, that the gates of death would never prevail
against her. And you necessarily assert with that, that there is no
salvation for you, anywhere.

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