Re: Digitale Radio is dood, Leve Digitale Radio!

Kristoff Bonne wrote:
Richard,


Richard Evans schreef:
Yes, but that doesn't mean mobile internet needs to grow at the same
rate, to support internet radio. A few 100k is ample for a good quality
stream.

I'm sorry, but do you think the mobile-phone companies will role out a
3G of 4G network just to run radio over it?

I never said the would.


They are building these networks to sell internet-access, and
internet-radio can only survive if it can piggy-back on that service (as
it does on wired internet-access).

Fine, but people will be content to get lower speeds for all the other applications. They would presumably do all the heavy use stuff at home and use mobile access to do what they need/want to when away from home. Internet radio would be just one application that they can use while mobile.

I wouldn't follow anything to a low quality system like DAB.

OK, that's your opinion but I do think it would be a bit unwize to
generalise this opinion to the whole of the population.

I wasn't trying to say that everybody else would do what I do. Perhaps some people will go to supprizing lengths to carry on getting what they want to watch or listen to. However I think a lot of other people would simply find something else to listen to.

Shutting down DAB would be the most stupid thing to do as that is
probably about the only way they have the slightest change to compete
with the all kinds of the other media they already have to face with.

That is rather a big leap. I don't see any good reason why something has
to be digital to succeed,

It's not about "being digital" an-sich, it's about giving the
broadcasters a way to fight of the competition.

All very well if they find some killer application that can save radio, but I haven't seen any sign of it yet.


... About the only thing DAB does for the radio
stations, is drain their financial resources.

I think you do not understand it.

Their resources are already being drained by the competition from all
these new media: internet-radio, people listing to mp3-players or to
podcasts in their car, traffic-information being broadcasted by TMC,
people watching mobile-TV or video-clips on their mobile phone instead
of listening to the radio, people tuning to radio-channels via sky, etc.



What the broadcasters need is a network that enables them to provide
simular services to the listener as the service provided by the
companies they have to compete with, not one limiting them to the format
of analog FM broadcasting.


The broadcasters are already losing listeners NOW!!!

Yes I know that, but I don't see any way that digital is going to change that. There is listen again, but I can't see any way that that will work on a broadcast system. The same goes for thing like Last FM. One thing they could do is have a system that allows listeners to buy the song they are listening to. But then something like that could also be done over FM, it just needs some device that identifies what song you are listening to, and offers it to you on a web site to buy later.

If there is any such killer application, DAB certainly hasn't managed to provide it. If there is any such killer app. that can be implemenetd on DAB, it will require new receivers, but it could probably also be implemented on FM using a data sub carrier, or a mobile phone with an FM receiver.

I don't see any reason why a high cost,low quality system like DAB is going to be any help in delivering some killer app. if they ever discover what that app. actually is.

The only thing that DAB is providing right now, is an expensive way to broadcast at very low quality. If it were replaced by a much better system, then at least the broadcasting costs would be lower, and if the sound quality was also good, and the reception was also good, then that would probably also attract some more listeners. Something like DVB-T2 could easily provide that, DAB fails miserably at this.

Richard E.
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