Re: Log keeping for privacy providers

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On 15 Aug 2006, TwistyCreek <anon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
traveler 66 wrote:

On 12 Aug 2006 15:27:16 +0200, Truncat wrote:
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I know there is a law in the European Union, and I think USA too, that=
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forces the Internet Service providers to keep logs for a certain
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time.
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Some privacy provider services claim to only keep logs for one or two =
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weeks, or even none, what bugs me is, is there any law that forces
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keep logs for a certain amount of time too? What I mean is that if
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abused their services and the police went around knocking their door o=
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month later, is there any legal implication for the company/owner of t=
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machine used to break the law?
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As far as I know a privacy provider isn't an ISP,

A. You've proven time and time again that you're incompetent so "as far
as you know" is meaningless.

B. You're a liar because you've been given direct quotes and links to
their sources which prove your "ISP" straw grab to be complete baloney.

As at 09-Jan-2006, the following applied:

SUBSCRIBER INFORMATION 12 months
(From end of subscription/last change)
Subscriber details relating to the person e.g. Name, date of birth,
installation and billing address, payment methods, account/credit card
details
Contact information (information held about the subscriber but not verified=

by the CSP) e.g. Telephone number, email address
Identity of services subscribed to (information determined by the
communication service provider)
e.g. Customer reference/account number, list of services subscribed to
Telephony: telephone number(s), IMEI, IMSI(s)
Email: email address(es), IP at registration
Instant messaging: Internet Message Handle, IP at registration
ISP - dial-in: Log-in, CLI at registration (if kept)
ISP - always-on: Unique identifiers, MAC address (if kept), ADSL end
points, IP tunnel address

TELEPHONY DATA 12 months
e.g. All numbers (or other identifiers e.g. name@bt) associated with call
(e.g.physical/presentational/network assigned CLI, DNI, IMSI, IMEI,
exchange/divert numbers)
Date and time of start of call
Duration of call/date and time of end of call
Type of call (if available)
Location data at start and/or end of call, in form of lat/long reference.
Cell site data from time cell ceases to be used.
IMSI/MSISDN/IMEI mappings.
For GPRS & 3G, date and time of connection, IMSI, IP address assigned.
Mobile data exchanged with foreign operators; IMSI & MSISDN, sets of GSM
triples, sets of 3G quintuples, global titles of equipment communicating
with or about the subscriber.

SMS, EMS and MMS DATA 6 months
e.g. Calling number, IMEI
Called number, IMEI
Date and time of sending
Delivery receipt - if available
Location data when messages sent and received, in form of lat/long
reference.

EMAIL DATA 6 months
e.g. Log-on (authentication user name, date and time of log-in/log-off, IP
address logged-in from)
Sent email (authentication user name, from/to/cc email addresses, date and
time sent)
Received email (authentication user name, from/to email addresses, date and=

time received)
ISP DATA 6 months e.g. Log-on (authentication user name, date and time of
log-in/log-off, IP address assigned)
Dial-up: CLI and number dialled
Always-on: ADSL end point/MAC address (If available)

WEB ACTIVITY LOGS 4 days
e.g. Proxy server logs (date/time, IP address used, URL=92s visited,
services)
The data types here will be restricted solely to Communications Data and
exclude content of communication.

OTHER SERVICES Retention relative to service provided
e.g. Instant Message Type Services (log-on/off time) If available.

COLLATERAL DATA Retention relative to data to which it is related
e.g. Data needed to interpret other communications data.for example - the
mapping between cellmast identifiers and their location translation of
dialling (as supported by IN networks)

You may find this useful and/or interesting:
http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/documents/vol_retention.pdf?version=3D1

Double posting today? One of these admin types put it best when he said "he
controls the box not the country", by the way, good ISP information on the
UK.
.

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