Re: Is there really any point to encryption?

On 14 Sep 2005 18:00:25 GMT
"nemo_outis" <abc@xxxxxxx> wrote:

> "Jeffrey F. Bloss" <jbloss@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
> news:pan.2005.09.14.17.50.10.826068@xxxxxxxxxxxxx:
>
> >
> > I though about an "archive" drive too, but dismissed it pretty quick
> > because the outer container has to have an OS installed. If you
could
> > nest something on a pure data drive then *maybe*, but you're left
with
> > the problem of making sure your OS partition has no traces of your
> > access to that second, hidden container. IOW, you're right back
where
> > you started before you gave up something like Eraser in favor of
whole
> > disk encryption. Rather than spending the $$$ on DCPP, grab PGPDisk
or
> > something and get the same effect.
> >
>
>
> I should have been more clear - I was talking about
container/partition
> encryption programs such as Bestcrypt, Truecrypt, and Drivecrypt, not
full-
> HD-incuding-OS encryption programs (e.g., DCPP). (That's true also
for my
> previous posts regarding features, etc.)
>
> Regards,

I have a test setup with full OS encrypted drives, one a slackware
installation and the other a Debian installation. The only part of the
OS that is visible is a small boot partition. I can't see that I can
hide the fact that these two setups are indeed encrypted, there's no
point in even trying to deny it. I see the same problem with these
container type schemes. At the end of the day whichever encryption
scheme or setup you are using it will be clear to law enforcement that
you are indeed using a form of encryption. The weakest links in all this
is going to be that key or passphrase and *you* and *me*. If you and I
know what our respective keys are how long do you think you could hold
out under interogation/threats/torture/ or even the use of drugs and
alcohol to get you to talk??. I wouldn't fancy my chances to be honest
and could see me giving in, which is why I think a way of not knowing
the key in the first place is very likely the only solution. If you
don;t know the key they can do what the hell to you, you will never
reveal the key cos you don't know it.

Just remember that, whatever encryption technique you use if you know
what that key is then it's you that is the weakest link, and law
enforcement will use every dirty low down trick to attack you rather
than attack the encryption scheme you have used. It all comes down to
how long you think you will hold out because believe me if they want
that key bad enough they *will* get it out of you in the end, if it's
serious enough you won't even see the inside of a court room let alone a
lawyer.




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