Re: Why are we fighting the TALIBAN? To Prevent Them From Taking Over Afghanistan And Providing Safe Haven To al-Qaeda.!


"Tom Sr." <tomswiftsenior@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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On Jul 13, 3:20 pm, The_Carpathia <writing...@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Oh...well...if it was in the NEWSPAPERS...it MUST be
true. It also
means you should have no problem producing a SINGLE
SOURCE (not news
report but SOURCE) confirming it. We can't trust Bush's
intel, so
provide a SINGLE confirmation of the Taliban supporting
Al Queda
BEFORE we invaded their land.

=> READ AND LEARN, Clueless Kenneth Clifton!

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http://www.stillwater-newspress.com/editorials/local_story_187102432.html

*Focus: Terrorist Activities Against the U.S.*

Afghanistan, Pakistan, India - and the Problem of
Terrorism
by Harold Sare
Second in a series
Published: July 06, 2009 09:24 am [NOTE THE DATE!]

Osama bin Laden was born in Saudi Arabia into a family
that migrated
to Saudi Arabia from Yemen.

His family was rich and well established, but bin Laden
was influenced
by extremist Muslim authorities who led him to pursue a
radical
political life that took him to Sudan in Africa, back to
Saudi Arabia,
and finally to Afghanistan when the Soviets invaded that
state.

He had become unpopular with the Saudi government, though
supported by
wealthy Saudis who responded to his extremist Muslim
views.

In Afghanistan, bin Laden found a country that was largely
rural (more
than 80 percent), but which was experiencing modern
pressures.

He, with his wealth, became well known because of money he
spent on
behalf of the Afghans and his personal fight against the
Soviet
Union.

In 1965, a Marxist-oriented group, the People?s Democratic
Party of
Afghanistan, a communist party, came into existence.

Soon, Afghanistan faced considerable political turmoil and
finally a
PDPA coup in 1978. By December of 1979 the PDPA was in
considerable
trouble, and the Soviet Union invaded Afghanistan.

Osama bin Laden was soon drawn into that conflict against
the Soviet
Union. The Soviet Union could never stabilize its power
and was driven
out in 1988.

The United States and Saudi Arabia working through the
ISI - Pakistani
Intelligence Service - assisted the Afghans in driving out
the
Soviets.

More than 2 million Afghans were killed and more than 6
million fled
to Pakistan, Iran and other countries. The United States
and the
government of Saudi Arabia pumped more than $6 billion
into that
conflict.

Growing out of the conflict and with the presence of Osama
bin Laden,
the al-Qaeda was formed.

Under the leadership of bin Laden the movement grew: a
terrorist
leadership, training camps for terrorists, and a strategy
against any
state that was not a ?true Islamic? state were
established.

The United States because of its world prominence was
targeted.

A second force to contend with, the Taliban was officially
established
in 1994 under the leadership of Mullah Omar, an Afghan, in
response to
the heavy activity of the Pakistani ISI in Afghanistan.

It seems likely that much of the money that the U.S. and
Saudi Arabia
spent in the fight against the Soviet Union was used to
lay the
foundation for the creation of the Taliban. Also, elements
in the
Pakistani ISI perhaps were helpful in establishing the
Taliban.

We must recognize that other anti-U.S. and anti-government
groups were
also functioning in Afghanistan. The political environment
is complex.

The Taliban began its attempt to take over Afghanistan
from the five
regional armed forces that had developed during the Soviet
period.
From its headquarters in Qandahar it moved toward Kabul
and took
control in September of 1996.

In a short time the Taliban controlled about 90 percent of
the
country. The ideology of the Taliban was mixed among
sub-groups, but
the Islamic extremists were in control.

Many Afghans found the Taliban to be oppressive and as a
result, many
fled Afghanistan, complicating further the refugee problem
in
Pakistan.

While Afghanistan had been Muslim for some time, the
Islamic faith
generally had not been rigorously enforced.

The Taliban changed that, especially with respect to the
position of
women, forms of dress, and strict application of Islamic
law
(Shari?ah).

The Taliban recruited many men from within Afghanistan and
from
Pakistan as well as from other Muslim countries. It drew
heavily on
younger refugees and Pakistani youth who attended the many
madrassas
in western Pakistan.

These madrassas are ?schools? for Islamic youth who are
heavily
indoctrinated in the faith, even to the point of becoming
martyrs for
the Islamic cause.

Out of this new Afghan environment, terrorists were
trained and sent
out to strike the ?evil? world.

In the early 90?s the World Trade Center in New York was
bombed, and
later in the 90?s U.S. Embassies were bombed in Kenya and
Tanzania.
President Clinton blamed the bombings on Islamic
extremists and
demanded of Afghanistan that terrorist activities cease
and that bin
Laden be turned over to the U.S. for appropriate
punishment.

When the Clinton demand was not responded to, the U.S., in
August
1998, hit the bin Laden terrorist training camps, funded
by some
wealthy Saudis, with cruise missiles fired from U.S. Navy
ships in the
Arabian Sea.

U.N. sanctions were imposed in November 1999 for the same
reason, and
all military aid to Afghanistan was cut off in 2001. After
September
11, 2001 - when the World Trade Center in New York was
destroyed and
3000 people killed, the attack on the Pentagon, and
endangered White
House - the U.S. demanded the surrender of bin Laden, the
shut-down of
the al-Qaeda by the Taliban, and closing the terrorist
training
camps.

The refusal of the Taliban to cooperate led to the bombing
of
Afghanistan by the U.S. with the assistance of the
British.

Efforts to close down the terrorist problem began in
earnest with the
attacks in the United States: 1) Forces within Afghanistan
began to
move against the Taliban, 2) the United States moved
troops into
Afghanistan, and 3) NATO eventually took command of the
International
Security Force (ISAF) in Afghanistan under a UN mandate.
Politics
began to change in Afghanistan, and Pakistan began to
experience
internal political pressures as a result of turmoil in
Afghanistan.

In spite of the years of effort and use of resources in
war in Iraq,
the U.S. is still determined to eliminate or greatly
reduce the
terrorist threats from the Central Asian area.
----
Harold Sare has studied, conducted research and taught
university
courses focused on the region of which he writes, and has
lived and
traveled in that area, specifically in India, including
Kashmir, and
in Pakistan. He now lives in Stillwater. Tomorrow: Part 3,
action
against terrorism in Central Asia.
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If you cannot (OR *WILL* NOT) accept the facts, Clifton,
then I
strongly suggest you seriously consider
"Shutting-The-***-Up" ---
instead of continuing to prove to the rational readers of
Usenet that
you, Kenneth, are either a compulsive liar or
psychotically
delusional, or both.

But yet again, you will NOT understand this, Kenneth
Clifton. You
have become so very blinded you cannot see the truth in
front of you.

-Tom Sr.


Kenny is a fundamentalist.
Kenny is no different that the Taliban fundamentalists that
we fight in Afghanistan.
For that reason he cannot change because he cannot think
outside of his fundamentalist box.


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