Re: What did our founding father say about religion and America?
- From: "JC" <dontbother@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 12:11:28 GMT
"ChrisT" <micromutt@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:a273e4die6ssd9986p669kb8mtt5sm9k1n@xxxxxxxxxx
On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 12:31:31 -0400, Patriot Games
On Sun, 28 Sep 2008 15:35:07 -0700, AnAmericanCitizen
Good history lesson....AAC
The Left would have us believe that our Founding Fathers were secular
people who produced the Constitution and Bill of Rights as secular
documents because they were secular people.
That is completely FALSE.
Our Founding Fathers were deeply religious Christians who wanted to
express Judeo-Christians principles in a SECULAR format so as to make
our Republic MORE accessible to ALL PEOPLE.
On Mon, 22 Sep 2008 16:30:41 -0400, Patriot Games <Patriot@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Thu, 18 Sep 2008 04:48:05 -0700 (PDT),
What did our founding father say about religion and America?
"God who gave us life gave us liberty. And can the liberties of a
nation be thought secure when we have removed their only firm basis, a
conviction in the minds of the people that these liberties are a gift
of God? That they are not to be violated but with His wrath? Indeed, I
tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just; that His
justice cannot sleep forever." Thomas Jefferson, 1781.
"We have been assured, Sir, in the Sacred Writings, that 'except the
Lord build the House, they labor in vain that build it.' I firmly
believe this; and I also believe that without His concurring aid we
shall succeed in this political building no better than the builders
of Babel." Benjamin Franklin, a statement he made at the
Constitutional Convention, on June 28, 1787.
"I have tender reliance on the mercy of the Almighty; through the
merits of the Lord Jesus Christ. I am a sinner. I look to Him for
mercy; pray for me." Alexander Hamilton's last dying words, July 12,
"This is all the inheritance I give to my dear family. The religion of
Christ will give them one which will make them rich indeed." Patrick
Henry in Last Will and Testament, November 20, 1798.
"We have staked the whole future of American civilization, not upon
the power of government, far from it. We have staked the future of all
our political institutions upon the capacity of mankind for
self-government; upon the capacity of each and all of us to govern
ourselves, to control ourselves, to sustain ourselves according to the
Ten Commandments of God." James Madison The Father of the U.S.
"It is the duty of all nations to acknowledge THE Providence of
Almighty God, to obey His will, to be grateful for His benefits, and
to humbly implore His protection and favor."
George Washington October 3, 1789 Proclaiming a National Day of Prayer
"Suppose a nation in some distant region should take the Bible for
their only Law Book, and every member should regulate his conduct by
the precepts there exhibited... What a paradise would this region be!"
John Adams, 1756.
"An appeal to arms and the God of hosts is all that is left us. But we
shall not fight our battle alone. There is a just God that presides
over the destinies of nations. The battle, sir, is not to the strong
alone. Is life so dear or peace so sweet as to be purchased at the
price of chains and slavery? Forbid it almighty God. I know not what
course others may take, but as for me, give me liberty, or give me
death." Patrick Henry, 1775.
"It cannot be emphasized too strongly or too often that this great
Nation was founded not by religionists, but by Christians; not on
religious, but on the Gospel of Jesus Christ. For that reason alone,
people of other faiths have been afforded freedom of worship here."
Patrick Henry, 1776.
"I am a real Christian, that is to say, a disciple of the doctrines of
Jesus. I have little doubt that our whole country will soon be rallied
to the unity of our Creator and, I hope, to the pure doctrine of Jesus
also." Thomas Jefferson, Written on the cover of his personal Bible.
"It is impossible to govern the world without God and the Bible. Of
all the dispositions and habits that lead to political prosperity, our
religion and morality are the indispensable supporters. Let us with
caution indulge the supposition that morality can be maintained
without religion. Reason and experience both forbid us to expect that
our national morality can prevail in exclusion of religious
principle." George Washington,
Farewell Speech, Sept. 19, 1796.
"Oh, eternal and everlasting God, direct my thoughts, words and work.
Wash away my sins in the immaculate blood of the Lamb and purge my
heart by thy Holy Spirit. Daily, frame me more and more in the
likeness of thy son, Jesus Christ, that living in thy fear, and dying
in thy favor, I may in thy appointed time obtain the resurrection of
the justified unto eternal life. Bless, O Lord, the whole race of
mankind and let the world be filled with the knowledge of thee and thy
son, Jesus Christ." George Washington, written in his personal prayer
"We have no government armed with the power capable of contending with
human passions, unbridled by morality and true religion. Our
Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is
wholly inadequate to the government of any other." John Adams, 2nd US
"The highest glory of the American Revolution was this: it connected
in one indissoluble bond the principles of civil government with the
principles of Christianity." John Quincy Adams, 6th US President.
"The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy
Bible for use in all schools." US Congress, 1782.
Aren't those the same people who were busy slaughtering native
americans, and burning witches ?
Got any proof of god I can take to a court of law ? Sorry that was
already done in the scopes trial.
Have you read founding father Thomas Paine's book "The age of
Reason". I didn't see him listed in your quotes.
If you want to live by "Gods laws" from the bible just declare
the muslim sharia as our law of the land. No different than the bible.
Is that really the way you want to go ? Burn and drown witches and
heretics and any one who disagrees with your sect ?
Christians fought and slaughtered each other for hundreds of years
untold numbers were slaughtered. ( I don't suppose you know anything
about the reformation and Martin Luther and the Catholic church.
Still killing each other in Ireland.
You really want to go back to killing people because they get
caught doing a little work on the sabbath.
Do you women out there really want to go back to being Chattel ?
Lets go out tomorrow and stone some adulterers. Should be easy here in
the US, 65% of the population is divorced and now remarried.
Accordingly I should be able to have as many wives as I can afford
like all the heros in the bible ? Name the verse forbidding polygamy,
I can't seem to find it.
You demonstrate a lack of comprehension regarding the Bible. How about a pop quiz. What does Leviticus say about a man lying with a man?
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