Re: Where do Democrats stand on China's complete lack of pollution control?

On Jul 29, 8:37 pm, "Richard" <rander3...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Well?

Richard - I don't know if you're the same as "Rich," who I've
discussed this question with in the "alt.global-warming" group.

But the fact is, it's a fact that the US government under George W.
Bush is HELPING the CHINESE to emit more CO2.

How?

Through programs at the US Commerce Department that are co-sponsoring
Chinese trade fairs aimed at developing the Chinese coal-mining
industry, for starters.

Through programs conducted through the Commerce Department's
"BUYAmerica" office that are promoting the activities of American
automobile companies in Chinese automobile manufacturing, for another
thing.

Also, many the very same US-based corporations and industries that are
arguing strenuously against controls on CO2 emissions here in the
United States -- at least until the Chinese cut back on their CO2
output -- ALSO happen to be helping the Chinese to burn more coal,
drill more oil, and build and drive more automobiles.

To the extent that American industry is backing your position on
"Chinese" CO2 emissions, Richard, American industry seems to be
playing a double game. They're profiting mightily from participation
in Chinese fossil fuel production and Chinese fossil fuel use -- in
some cases by opening up new manufacturing and mining operations in
China, even while they cut back operations here in the USA.

But some of them at the same time seem to be saying that "because" of
the Chinese CO2 problems, the US government should go easy on
restricting CO2 emissions here at home, lest American industry become
"uncompetitive." Meaning, it appears, that if the US government tries
to force through CO2 reductions here, it will make some of these US-
based companies less "competitive" -- with themselves.

I don't have enough time tonight to give you chapter & verse on the
apparent double game that US-based based companies are playing in
China, Richard. I'll try to do that later on, if this message string
persists. But just FYI, some of the big corporate names that are
fairly heavily invested in Chinese fossil fuel use today include the
following:

General Motors
Ford
Chrysler
Boeing
Citibank
Exxon-Mobil
Chevron
Conoco-Phillips
Schlumberger (big oil field equipment company based in the US)
Peabody Energy (largest US producer of coal)
Massey Coal (engaged in massive coal field development in China)

Also engaged in defending US trade with China, and in arguing strongly
against the idea of the US Congress trying to impose "domestic" CO2
targets on our Indian and Chinese trade partners in order to achieve
climate protection goals, is the U.S. Chamber of Commerce,
representing thousands of American companies both large and small.

The National Mining Association (NMA) is another US-based industry
group that is quite enthusiastic about American coal producers being
able to export to the Chinese market.

And the West Virginia Development Office (WVDO) and a program at West
Virginia University are among the state government agencies in the US
that also are apparently quite favorable to Chinese fossil fuel use
and Chinese CO2 emissions, for pretty obvious reasons: namely, that
China right now seems like a great market for West Virginia coal.

Maybe you're not fully aware of just how enthusiastically American
business and American politicians that support American business have
been promoting Chinese energy development, Richard.

But given the scope and depth of the corporate interests involved, it
kind of eclipses what you're writing about the "Democrats" and their
supposed failure to address the Chinese CO2 issue. If the Democrats
are ignoring the problem, at least some of the Republicans you seem to
favor -- the people in the Bush administration who are heading up
Commerce Department and State Department initiatives on energy
"dialogue" with China, for example -- are working to make the problem
worse.
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