Re: DNA Studies : Humans Nearly Wiped-Out 70,000 Years Ago - And It Wasn't a Flood Either
- From: ChrisT <micromutt@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 15:31:24 GMT
On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 12:11:50 GMT, bw@xxxxxxxxx (B1ackwater) wrote:
On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 19:18:45 -0700, nospam@xxxxxxxxx (Ralph) wrote:
B1ackwater <bw@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 07:47:05 -0700, nospam@xxxxxxxxx (Ralph) wrote:
Pure speculation. It's a lot of theory taken on faith which would
classify it as a religion.
Even ten years ago I'd have tended to agree with you ... but
since then the quality of methods and sheer volume of evidence
have increased dramatically.
It's important to never take the word of "scientists" as gospel,
especially not the FIRST words you hear from them. Science is a
"finding out" process ... so you'll get closer to the truth as
others research the same subject. After awhile, you've got a
scientific FACT.
Most of these scientists have got to keep their research new and
exciting or else they lose their funding.
Yep. The capitalist mentality has its positives and
its negatives. However scientists have been working
to impress their sugar-daddies since the beginning.
Todays situation isn't "new", just "more of the same".
No freekin DNA test is going to work on a freeken fossel.
Not entirely true actually ...
The rare times they've found actual tissue
going way back, the best they could do is identify a couple protiens.
They do better now. I hear they've almost got enough
Neanderthal DNA now to try for a clone. More than
enough woolly mammoth DNA ... the Japanese have a
vision there .......
However, what this mitochondrial DNA study studied wasn't
"fossil" DNA, but patterns across CURRENT populations.
This kind of DNA is tightly conserved across time and
bloodlines, making it possible to trace origins, even
population shifts.
What they are probably doing is looking at the DNA of modern people and
coming up with theories which can't be proven or disproven.
If it can't be proven or disproven then it isn't "science"
and would never make it to ANY scientific journal. The
methods for backtracing mitochondrial DNA have been in
development for a rather long time now - and results are
not only numeric but can also be physically checked since
there ARE plenty of graves, mummies, even 'ice men' going
back many thousands of years ... all of which can yeild
plenty of mitochondrial DNA.
Further archeology in the Indus river valley (where India,
Pakistan & Iran meet) and ancient Chinese burial sites will
surely yeild much more, going back perhaps as far as 8000
years. Receding glaciers will surely spit-out even more
"ice men" too, hopefully in the 10,000 year range. Oh yea,
the same techniques can be used on non-human DNA too and
there are plenty of preserved bugs and such going back
fifty+ million years.
These will lend more confirmation to backtracing methods,
or show whether corrections are required.
But ... I get the feeling you don't care about the facts
if they contradict your 'beliefs' .....
There aren't
a lot of facts here, but a lot of speculation which is almost certainly
well funded by Joe Blow taxpayer.
Speculation + time + effort = facts.
I do agree that the current state of "publish or perish"
has brought forth a great amount of "science" WELL before
it's time. Perhaps the worst offenders are scientists
involved with diet/lifestyle studies - geez, how many
times have eggs and coffee been poison or preservation over
the past 25 years ? The popular press loves it ... but ....
Holy crap, if they can get enough neanderthal DNA out of old
teeth and bone, maybe they can clone one of them as well as a wooly
mamoth. First thing he will want to do is kill the mamoth the Japs and
Russians are working on.
.
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