Re: US 'accidentally' kills 9 Iraqi civilians

On Feb 5, 2:06 pm, snakehawk <snakeh...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Feb 5, 2:43 pm, PrivateParty <rdbyrn...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

spammer wrote:
On Feb 4, 12:02�am, Simpson <2-pa...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Is anyone surprised?

Did it actually happen? If it did, oops, there's a war on and
bad things happen during wars.

So true. The difference between the US killing civilians and Al Qaeda
killing civilians is the US REGRETS ITS ERROR.

So untrue. There is no war going on. It's an occupation. There are
no armies opposing U.S. forces anywhere in the Middle East. U.S.
soldiers are killing civilians. You can call them insurgents,
militants, rebels, terrorists, al Quaeda, or any other propaganda term
you can dream up. But they are all civilians--and an incredible
number of the hundreds of thousands killed so far are women and
children.

The United States is illegally occupying a foreign nation. You can
conjure up any justification that pleases you, but you can't change
the simple facts. In order to continue the occupation, U.S. forces
must use military weapons to suppress any civilian opposition. They
must use military force against disorganized groups of civilians who
feel obligated to fight invaders who have taken over their country and
their government, divided their country into ethnic enclaves, and are
seeking to control the natural resources of their nation.

We are all certain that people like you "REGRET" having to kill
civilians to achieve your goal of taking over and completely
controlling their country. We are all certain that you would much
prefer that the occupied people simply surrender their rights, their
country, their wealth to your demands. Well, if it makes you feel
better, be assured that the people of Iraq "REGRET" having to employ
car bombs, roadside bombs, and sniper rifles to kill the well armed
and protected U.S. soldiers, just like the U.S. "REGRETS" having to
kill unarmed women and children with cannon fire and air-to-ground
missiles. But try to understand that the Iraqe people also have goals.

Your ignorant display is a scintillating example of why I'm no longer
a liberal.
First of all, Iraqis are worried about us leaving because of the
potential for complete descent into chaos. Yes, believe it or not, it
can actually get a lot worse over there than it is now.
Second, the people we are fighting against are anything but
disorganized. They are organized into militias and units that
infiltrate police and military forces and have support from outside
the country. They are savvy. There is more than one conflict going
on and the reason we remain is to hold up the government so extremist
or terrorist elements can't gain an advantage and cause that weak
government to collapse.
The occupied people you claim to care about did not have rights or
wealth under Saddam Hussein, now they have an opportunity. Solely
thanks to the United States and other countries that you hate who
decided that it's never the wrong time to do the right thing. You, on
the other hand, condemn the Iraqis by suggesting they were better off
under the iron fist of Saddam Hussein. The insurgents (look up the
word, fella: www.dictionary.com) and terrorist hide behind women and
children which is why civilians get killed but, even more so than
that, those same groups target their own citizens in bombing attacks
on mosques and other public areas like large outdoor markets. In
fact, the folks you have so much sympathy for are using mentally
retarded people as suicide bombers now.
You should look up our history with Iraq and also why we had a
relationship with them. Iraq launched missiles into Israel, invaded
Kuwait over oil, and sent combat forces into Saudi Arabia. They were
a threat whether at one moment in time Saddam had WMD or not. He had
them and used them, and there was NO reason to assume he wouldn't try
to possess them once again.
You don't understand it right now, but one day, when you grow up,
you'll understand that the responsibility the US has in the world is
much larger than any single president or administration.
.

Relevant Pages

  • Re: Avoid Major Oil companies (WoD)
    ... >Well, if your country would have been colonised, imperialised and ruled by ... The conflict is waged by civilian militants who are killing other ... civilians who have not harmed them. ... Terrorists are held accountable by nobody. ...
    (rec.autos.tech)
  • Re: US accidentally kills 9 Iraqi civilians
    ... killing civilians is the US REGRETS ITS ERROR. ... their government, divided their country into ethnic enclaves, and are ... Those still living in Iraq have been forcefully moved around into ... Iraqis don't want to be occupied, ...
    (alt.politics)
  • Re: OT: Retired Generals Want Rumfelds Resignation
    ... unnecessary invasion of another country (putting soldiers and civilians ... extremely necessary to bring the war to the terrorists. ...
    (talk.origins)
  • Re: My poor misguided/misinformed friends
    ... Whenever a military power resorts to killing civilians who have nothing ... NATO *will* retreat from Afghanistan and leave it a worse place than it ... Some fine "cultural war" you have going ... things to spend time and talent on than killing people in some country ...
    (talk.origins)
  • Re: US accidentally kills 9 Iraqi civilians
    ... killing civilians is the US REGRETS ITS ERROR. ... their government, divided their country into ethnic enclaves, and are ... Millions of Iraqi citizens have been forced out of their own country. ...
    (alt.politics)