Re: Welcome to Planet Wingnut

On 12 Aug 2007 23:59:54 GMT, putpeopleoverprofit
<fake<@>putpeopleoverprofit.org> wrote:

Captain Compassion <daranc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
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On 12 Aug 2007 17:45:43 GMT, putpeopleoverprofit
<fake<@>putpeopleoverprofit.org> wrote:

Captain Compassion <daranc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
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On 12 Aug 2007 01:46:40 GMT, putpeopleoverprofit
<fake<@>putpeopleoverprofit.org> wrote:

Captain Compassion <daranc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
news:jonsb3h6df5esm2aqv66edrcitaq6ml0on@xxxxxxx:

Federal gasoline tax dollars and other dollars pay for part of the
road infrastructure but tell me when is the last time you saw a
federal road work crew. The majority of gasoline tax dollars are
collected at the state and local level.

--
There may come a time when the CO2 police will wander the earth
telling the poor and the dispossed how many dung chips they can put
on their cook fires. -- Captain Compassion.


Captain, you post and your signature text belie how little you know
of the workings of the world.

Hasn't anyone ever explained to you the CO2 cycle and why burning
dung is not the same as burning fossil fuels?

BTW, the term I believe you are looking for is dispossessed not
"dispossed"

Just trying to help.

Fossil fuels old merely old plants and dung.

That's your story?

You are going to stand behind that position?

Yes.
http://www.athro.com/geo/trp/gub/coal.html
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/polystrate/coal.html
http://members.lycos.co.uk/webchem/Notes/Notes_Module_3/formation_of_cr
ude_oil.htm

I know where oil comes from, thanks anyway. You are (purposely?) missing
the point.

A few million years of time going by change nothing in your mind?

The current best guess for the age of the earth is 4.54 billion years.
A million or so years is a very short period of time. 550 million
years ago atmospheric CO2 was at over 7,000 PPM. 150 million years ago
it was at a little over 2,000 PPM. Now it is at a mere 380 PPM.
Certainly only a small % of that carbon loss can be attributed to the
processes that turn plant and animal material into fossil fuels. The
earth is near the nadir of both global temperatures and atmospheric
CO2. The long view would hold this as more of a problem then a slight
increase of atmospheric CO2 or the warming of the earth by less than 1
C. in the last 100 years.


I'll take that as a NO.

What you are missing is humans and all that we know of the world has
only been in the last few hundred thousand to a few million years. We
have evolved and come to our place in geologic history only in the last
second of the last minute of the year of our planet's existence.

Certainly the past is more knowable than the future.

Discussion and reference to other times in our planet's history are
meaningless to our species and all the other species we currently share
this planet with. Only the hardiest of those have witnessed even a
fraction of that timescale.

The past is unknowable yet the future is clear. Amazing.

Purposely fucking with that balance, ignoring the implications of
inaction, and blindly adhering to some quaint notion of persistence will
doom us all.

It's not the planet stupid, it's US who are at risk. The planet will be
fine, and likely grateful to be rid of us.

The average length for the existence of a species on earth is around 2
million years. If you include Homo Erectus in the human mix our time
is pretty much up. Do you think that mankind can prolong this
existence by abandoning the tools that got us here?

Let me ask a question. Which is better. A warmer richer humanity or a
poorer colder humanity?


--
There may come a time when the CO2 police will wander the earth telling
the poor and the dispossessed how many dung chips they can put on their
cook fires. -- Captain Compassion.

Wherever I go it will be well with me, for it was well with me here, not
on account of the place, but of my judgments which I shall carry away
with me, for no one can deprive me of these; on the contrary, they alone
are my property, and cannot be taken away, and to possess them suffices
me wherever I am or whatever I do. -- EPICTETUS

Joseph R. Darancette
daranc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
.