Re: My Presidential Bet

Citizen Jimserac <Jimserac@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in
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On May 6, 8:43 pm, Gene <W...@xxxxxx> wrote:
CitizenJimserac<Jimse...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote
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On May 6, 2:23 pm, "Jerry Okamura" <okamuraj...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
I am willing to bet that not one of you know what the candidates
will do about the following issues, regardless of what party they
are in.

1. What are they proposing we do about the illegal alien problem?
What do they propose to do about stopping future illegal's from
entering this country? What are they going to do about the
illegal's already in this country, both those who came into the
country illegally and those who are now illegal's who entered this
country legally?

2. The three big entitlement programs are consuming a larger and
larger percentage of total federal spending and growing, what do
they propose to do about solving that problem?

3. The trustees of Social Security are saying that Social
Security and Medicare are fiscally unsound. What do they propose
to make it fiscally sound? Is the proposed solution, simply
kicking the can down the road a little further, or is it really
going to solve the problem?

4. Do they support the balanced budget amendment? If not, why
not? If they do not support the balanced budget amendment, how do
we solve the debt and deficit problem? Is reducing the debt and
the deficit important in your opinion, or is it not important?

5. What is their position on Pork Barrel spending and Earmarks?
Do they support CAGW's position on how to reform pork barrel
spending? If not, why not? If they have a proposal, what is it?

Thanks! I was starting to think that I was the
only person wondering about these questions.

IT IS IMPERATIVE that we voters get answers to these
questions. We MUST use every opportunity to BLOCK
them from distractions such as long winded discussions
on stem cell research, creationism, global warming
and other intellectual distractions.

We MUST complain when the so-called "news"
networks or "news" media spend pages
and pages covering public opinion polls,
who made the most clever remark,
who made the worst gaffe all the while
IGNORING the 5 key questions which the poster
has listed.

Everyone MUST insist that the democrats and repbulicans
ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS.

Thanks Again
CitizenJimserac

What a laugh - stem cell research, global warming - intellectual
distractions - must be another jerk fundy repug.

--
"I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much
liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it." Thomas
Jefferson

"History is earmarked by the successes of liberals and mistakes of
conservatives." - ETG


You will, I hope, pardon my characterization of those important
issues but the key questions raised by the initial poster
MUST be answered first. That is how we ended up with the incompetent
George Bush. And there are a lot of George Bush clones out there -
McCain and Romney and Giulani to name but a few.


We are in a dark ages. Humanity does every now and then take two steps
back before resuming their walk forward. The generations today mirror
those of the 1920's. But as is often the case these periods result in
excesses by the greedy and powerful that end in changing the upcoming
generations ideas and goals. Did Bush creat enough hardship to creat the
change? I don't know. I'm guessing a recession or even a depression will
finally be the result of this ridiculously overspent economy. At some
point the 'haves' will not be able to spend/borrow enough to replace the
missing consumption of the have nots.

I can not remember a worse time in my life. It amazes me that the average
income is 43,000 a year - I'd call that lower class for a family. That
income can not purchase a medium priced home.
Bush has managed to bring America out of the 'New Deal' and into the
'Raw Deal'.


I was originally a classical conservative republican but, after the
neo-cons,
there are no more republicans - they have altered the entire character
of that party
and there is NO way the current social security system, medicare,
medicaid, education and other programs can remain financially viable
without massive tax increases - particularly on the very companies and
businesses that encouraged the importation
of the immigrant workers. MOST certainly NOT by cutting their taxes
as Bush, the incompetent, has done. Likewise - there is NO way that
all those immigrants will be deported after being enticed here for the
same reason that most our ancestors came - to provide a decent living
for their families and the only solution is to
legitmize those who want to become citizens. Any other solution is
un- American
and you can just go check out that inscription at the base of the
Statue of Liberty
to reassure yourself in case the neo "con" men's twisted logic has
polluted your brain.

One solution.

The other is to require the same from these latinos as were required of
my grandparents. An Ellis Island and a fence as effectice against
mexicans as the Atlantic ocean was against the Europeans.

If it means a triple fence filled with lions - fine. Lions need to eat
to.

The difficult of crossing the Atlantic to an unsure future insured those
immigrants were of the quality America needed while the ease of crossing
the southern border insures we get the trash Mexico doesn't want.



I'm ready to vote for ANY CANDIDATE, who can come up with some
reasonable strategies and answers to the key questions raised by the
original poster.

Not me. I'm ready for any liberal candidate and no republican candidate
is ever the answer to anything.

The last time that wasn't true was with Teddy Roosevelt and he eventually
quit the party.

Right now, I'm leaning towards Obama since Hillary Clinton seems to
want to play the centrist game. He does not have all the answers
either but at least he is one of the few to state the obvious - that
the "war" in Iraq is a failed strategic blunder and
that we should withdraw immediately. I don't buy any of that
defeatist bull*** because there is NO war in Iraq - no opposing army
nor anything tangible to focus a military operation on; that sort of
World War ll thinking is not applicable and is part of the current
administration's strategic misconceptions -just exactly as the "Swamp
fox" 's tactics were an enigma to the British in the revolutionary war
period


The only liberal American running is Dennis Kucinich. Obama is an unknown
quanity which is fine if we were not comming off a world class *** up
and Hillary is a globalist like her husband.

I DON'T care if the candidate is a lefty liberal, a rightie
conservative
or a centrist or anything like that - those labels have become
meaningless in todays crises and massive distortions of the
traditional party divisions.


To a point but liberal doesn't just mean a political bent - it also
describes a secularist, a set of principles and someone who places people
ahead of property.

Exactly the opposite of Bush.

Thanks
Citizen Jimserac





--
"I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much
liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it." Thomas
Jefferson

"History is earmarked by the successes of liberals and mistakes of
conservatives." - ETG
.