Re: Rumsfield Talks Fascism




"NeoLibertarian" <cognac756@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Marinus van der Lubbe wrote:
NeoLibertarian wrote:


C. Pangus wrote:
Speaking to the VFW yesterday Defense Secretary Rumsfield tried to
hang
the sort of fascism practiced by Hitler and the Nazis on US opponents
in
the
Middle-East. Rumsfield particularly referred to attempts to appease
Hitler
as he began his conquest of Europe. How ludicrously hypocritical.

First, who is over-running and occupying countries in the Middle-East?
Iran? Syria? Lebanon? No. It is only the US and Israel which are
doing that.

Israel and the US act directly. But they aren't the only actors.

Appeasement? Didn't Saddam try to appease Bush by destroying WMDs and
the UN by allowing UN inspectors access to Iraq for over a decade?

No. In fact this seems based on some sort of fantasy, rather than the
facts of the case.

You have cite there Sparky?

A cite for what, dummy?

The UNSCOM inspections only operated from 1991-1998 before Saddam
refused to even pretend to comply with them. UNSCOM declared they could
no longer operate in Iraq and disbanded, Ritter went before congress
and told us that Saddam had three nuclear triggering devices only
lacking fissile material. Clinton bombed the shit out of Iraq.

And that was that.


You dream up facts to suit your need.

Both times UN inspectors left Iraq it was because the US warned them to
leave because of imminent US attack. Ritter has stated since the Iraq
occupation by US that Saddam had, in fact, disarmed.

As for "triggering devices" I have not only seen any such claims, and I do
follow the media, so it is certainly not "common knowledge." I suspect it
is neo-con fantasy.

"Only lacking fissile material" is like only lacking air to breath! They
didn't even have unprocessed yellow-cake.



There were no more weapons inspections until 2002, mostly because UNSC
Res. 1441 passed.

UNMOVIC was in Iraq for only a matter of months before Op: IF.

A cite isn't required; Well known and established fact.

Evidently not all the proscribed weapons had been destroyed (500+ CW
munitions have been found in Iraq since Op: IF--ones that it was
previously thought had been destroyed in 1991).

A cite isn't required for this fact, either; this is well known and
established.


A limited number of CW artillary shells have been dug up from disposal sites
or found in dilapidated storage areas. None were maintained or considered
usable.

Again, your supposed "well known" facts are fabrication and/or half-truths.




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