Re: Greenland glaciers disappearing more quickly



Solar flares contribute little to climate change; over time, they are
too few and far in between to do much of anything but to wreak a little
havoc on power grids and communications. :) That sounds like a RL
reiteration of......? If so, have him apply a numerical model to
outline the dynamics behind such a claim.

Truth is, increasing quantities of greenhouse gasses were only the
beginning of it. When you couple that with normal climate cycles, plus
all the soot that is landing on glaciers and ice flows, all these
factors exacerbate the normal cycle. However, when the ice begins to
diminish exposing more of the earth's surface, which absorbs the sun's
radiation which in turn is converted into thermal energy, something
dramatic happens. 1.) there is less ice to reflect solar radiation and
more exposed earth to absorb the radiation and warm. Hence, the
conditions are set for warming to accelerate. Bottom line, greenhouse
gasses are not totally responsible for climate. They simply played the
role in overcoming the inertia to initiating a warming trend. And the
chemistry in the upper atmosphere...it contributes little to change.
All the factors involved are at or near the surface. The oceanic
currents are just now beginning to contribute to climate change. In a
relatively short time, this variable will become far less subtle as its
effects will stick out like a sore thumb.

Kyoto treaty??? Forget it. Game over. There is nothing we can to to
stop this trend except maybe building huge, opaque structures in space
or hope for a meteor collision to block the sun's rays from reaching
the planet. In doing that, either option will create a whole set of
new problems.

When Bush refused to sign the treaty, something tells me the government
already knew we are screwed and they have been keeping this from the
public. I have a feeling this is exactly the case. So, unwittingly,
Bush actually did the right thing and placed priorities on the economy
rather than the environment. So enjoy the ride...whatever is left of
it.

Climate change is a very s l o w process that tends to
maintain the trend it is heading in; whether it is warming or cooling.
For all intents and purposes, there is little on the horizon that will
change this.

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