Re: Americians should stop rewarding ignorance


XTS wrote:
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> > XTS wrote:
> > > "PerfectlyAble" <jrhw@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> > > >
> > > > Clinton disarmed Saddam. How do we know this?
> > > > well when Bush invaded Saddam didn't use his
> > > > biological, chemical or nuclear arsenals.
> > > >
> > > Well, that was the proof that deterrence worked and the all out invasion
> was
> > > senseless. But it is to obvious and lays to waste anything bush or his
> > > cronies can say, so they brush that huge fact under the carpet.
> > >
> > > I also think it's disgusting that the same people who for yaers have
> said to
> > > nuke all of Ilsam, wipe them from the earth, destroy Mecca, Muslim are
> > > scum, make them eat pigs and all that, now put on this horribly phoney
> act
> > > of compassion for the Iraqi peope because they are so enthralled that
> they
> > > got to vote.
> >
> > Whats timeless is how Iraqis are flooding to the polls to vote for
> > candidates calling for America to withdraw. They are voting to
> > bring about US withdrawal. So Bush would have us believe they
> > are consenting to the whole invasion of their country. But dig
> > a bit deeper and you find Sadr and ongoing re-alignment with
> > more hardline Islam, all waiting for the US to leave, all thanking
> > the US for removing resistance to their oncoming Islamic revolution.
> > The idea that Iraqis will keep the US construction is wishful
> > thinking. But Bush will say, stay the course, yeah, stay until
> > he leaves office.
>
> Thats the thing, bush done the job for them he opened door, or Pandoras box
> for the Islamic Clericst that wanted into iraq for a long time. Bush and his
> gang have no plans on leaving. To many permanemt bases and the reality of
> the Syrian incursion is still hanging in the balance. You know they were
> planning The Cenral Command out of Bagdhah. That was the main reason bush
> would not stop the invasion process. The people who told us the Iraq
> invasion was pre-planned were not lying. I also agree this whole democratic
> government thing is nothing but a ruse. It will not survive there. That is
> islamic theocacy territory. Saddam is gone, Radical Islam is in.

I disagree to the sentiment. I may loath fundamentalism but
they are clueless. I mean they elected Bush didn't they!
No, fundamentalists have this creepy way of keeping
society stagnate and backwards. The perfect regime in
the imperfect world of oil producers, and for putting
a uncouth President in the Whitehouse.

I can imagine some bureaucrat writing how Iran wasn't so bad,
atleast they pump the oil out and sell it, all we really want
from the region. Imagine if they actually did most of the
work up front, that'll only put our CEOs on down to refinery
workers out of a job.

No, the way I see this whole thing playing is like this.
Some bright young thing was hired by the US government
and proved that if the government gets really inept it
can basically do almost anything. Isn't walking first a
process of destablisation and the unbalanced falling
before the 'save' of a second leg.

Everything about Bush has been about burning the
old code and starting afresh. Without 9/11 Bush wouldn't
have squat, falling over himself wasn't enough he
needed something that destablised the world as well.

Without Iraq Bush wouldn't even be president.
When you start throwing yourself off balance sometimes
the second leg doesn't catch you and you lunge forward
uncontrollably. Afganistan invasion was predictable,
but all too effective. I mean using afgan ground troops
basically killed any real fight.

Oh, and yes I do believe there is Islamic terrorism,
I'm just not sure it's not mainly Mosaad. The fact
is the planners in washington wanted pictures
of US troops dying to change hearts and minds in
the region (not for the better or worse).




>
>
> > >
> > > It does not matter that during the Cinton administration they wanted to
> hang
> > > Clinton for not invading them and wiping them out, when Kofi Anan
> brokered a
> > > peace negotiation. No, they hated Kofi and they hated Bill for not
> turing
> > > Iraq into a sand heap.
> >
> > Whats worse is the world watched while the US disarmed Saddam,
> > entered a agreement with Saddam that if he disarmed they wouldn't
> > invade after throwing Saddam from Kuwait. Well looks like the US
> > invaded anyway. US word means zilch.
>
>
> There, you make a very valid point and really hit home. Bush ruined it all
> for his war. he had to have it.
>
> > >
> > > Who do they think they are kidding with this bullshit act they are
> trying to
> > > play out? Do they think our collective memory forgot their demands for
> > > Clinton to wipe them out? I often think they are just kidding
> themsleves,
> > > because nobody in their right mind would believe that they these Muslim
> > > hating Christian Conservatives are all going crazy with joy over an
> Iraqi
> > > voting. The bullsht does not get any deeper than that.
> >

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