Re: New York Bridge NOT destroyed because Bush tapped the ***'s phone


gaffo wrote:
> awthrawthr@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
> > gaffo wrote:
> >
> >>awthrawthr@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
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> >>>gaffo wrote:
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> >>>>awthrawthr@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
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> >>>>>Cap'n Fishlips wrote:
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> >>>>>>On 17 Dec 2005 11:46:31 -0800, awthrawthr@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>You could hear the libs screaming if Bush hadn't foiled the attack.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Now they are screaming because he did.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>What does this all mean?: The Democrats want their power back even if
> >>>>>>>it means the destruction of the US.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>As a President..you have rules of law you must go by...he broke
> >>>>>>those..and continues to do so...*** him..he needs to be impeached!
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Au contraire, mon ami. It is not against the law to tap international
> >>>>>calls.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>oh contrare you Treasonous Son of a Bitch, it is illegal to tap domestic
> >>>>phonecalls. - which your hero has done and admitted to doing.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>You ignorant ***, get your facts straight before you champion
> >>>>destroying our Constitution.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Actually the NSA has the authorization from Congress by law to tap
> >>>international calls when there is a person who has had known alqaeda
> >>>contacts.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>but not domestic ones. which your tin-star dictator authorized.
> >
> >
> > They aren't domestic when one end of the call is in another country.
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> I am aware of that. As I stated your Presidunce has wiretaped DOMESTIC
> calls. this is ILLEGAL without a court order (either from FISA or a
> regular court).

When one islamic terrorist is talking to another Islamic terrorist, I
don't care if they are calling from the bedroom to the kitchen. WE ARE
AT WAR! When Lincoln was responsible for protecting this nation, he
didn't let *** tlike this get in his way.


> understand!!!!!! D-O-M-E-S-T-I-C calls made my American citizens

Your American citizens?????? Are you referring to the Islamic *** who
wanted to blow up a truck, or the other Islamic *** who wanted to
destroy a major bridge!!
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> hundreds - have been illegally intercepted by your hero.

For which he deserves the HIGHEST praise! So far he has saved the
shoppers in a mall in Combus Ohio from being blown to bits and/or
burned to death. He also stopped another terrorists who was looking for
ways to destroy a NYC bridge!

> >>>If there is not enough time to seek a judge's permission, it
> >>>is still authorized.
> >
> >
> >>only for 72 hrs- no longer.
> >
> >
> >>>Note in your own sig line the phrase "and without
> >>>complying with the procedures of the Foreign Intelligence
> >>>Surveillance." That is the part that permits the phone taps.
> >
> >
> >>only with permission by that court fool. not by neglecting to infomr
> >>that sad court - as you hero neglected to do.
> >
> >
> > The President is Commander in Chief who is conducting a war which was
> > authorized by Congress. You don't ask "pretty please" in battle.
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> No man is above the law Chump. not even the President (ESPECIALLY the
> President!). This is NOT the USSR buddy, you what that, go move to
> China, we don't need your kind.

He is the Commander in chief whose main responsibility right is to
PROTECT the country from Islamic fucks.

> "Time of War" is irrelivant. Ex Parte vs Milligan is clear the Supreme
> Court has rulled there is no legal foundation for the President to
> nullify ANY part of the US Constitution in time of war.

If after this war the court wants to make another similar ruling while
wearing their fresh pressed robes, let them have at it.

>
> Ex Parte vs Milligan - look it up Bubba.

Yawn.

> This is the Land of the Free, not a fucking Gulag, zombie

I'll tell you what...why don't you have a glass of congac, kick back in
your silk jacket and provide us with some more of your high theory. I'm
sure it will be very impressive...suitable for the finest leather
covered book.

> >>in addition, FISA has no legal authority to allow monitoring of domestic
> >>calls, which again your Chimpster did indeed do.

Thank God we have adults in charge to make sure things get
done...instead of theorists like yourself who might put out a position
paper instead.

> >>>The only illegal action was committed by whomever released the Top
> >>>Secret method of operation.
> >
> >
> >>incorrect. and in fact it Bushler's actions are indeed deemed illegal
> >>and unConstitutional by a court of law, those leakers will not be held
> >>in violation of anything.
> >
> >
> > One of them has already been convicted. Another was arrested only
> > recently for planning to blow up a shopping mall in Columbus Ohio.
>
>
>
> yes. and there convictions shall be thrown out. why? because if they
> were convicted by evidence used in trial that was gathered from the NSA
> wiretapping - and that wiretapping is deemed illegal by the courts -
> those men will be set free.

Don't hold your breath. If they are released you can count on them
being "mugged by thugs" shot and killed in an 'apparent' robbery. Oh
yeah, stuff like that happens...even in the US.

>
> if your thugish friends and only respected the Rule of Law instead of
> subverting it, those men you like to show as behind bars WOULD STAY
> THERE! - but no, the gov. agents violated the law (like the President),
> and so expect those men to be released in three years time.

This is a war. The enemy gets killed or imprisoned. If stupid people
like yourself try to release the murdering terrorists, the only choice
left is to "rob" them.

> - its called the Rule of Law, the thing our Nation is suppose to run on
> and public servants make an oath to uphold.

I'm glad you weren't around when we were fighting the Nazis and the
Japanese.

>
> I would'nt understand that precept, it is something Reichbugs hate.
> Reichbugs only like blind ignorant Force, like all thugs and Nazis.

You wouldn't know what a Nazi was if he gave you a shower.

> >>in fact they will be treated as Patriots and Heroes.
> >
> >
> > Nonsense. Maybe at some readical campus and among WTO protestors, but
> > nowhere else. Heck I was talking earlier this evening with a Democrat
> > who is a big 'peacenik'. She agrees completely with Bush's actions.

> bull***. I don't beleive you.

Of course you don't...because you have trouble dealing with reality.
The srtory is true nonetheless.

> >>>Meanwhile, that person has just made it easier for terrorists to avoid
> >>>getting caught. Which means they have an increased opportunity to kill
> >>>thousands of Americans.
> >
> >
> >>maybe. so be it.
> >
> >
> > That's nice. Real nice. Blow up a bridge. Blow up a shopping mall...
> > it's all okay because we must be politically correct at all costs.

> I see you have no respect for the Rule of Law. You are a coward who
> would destroy Liberty just to be "safe"

Why don't you take your law book to Zarkawi and tell him how you
respect the rights of terrorists in the US. I'm sure he'll be
impressed.

>
> Go back to Britian you POS. Wear a redcoat while your at
> it..........with a yellow streak down the middle might be apt also.

I've never been there, so I can't go back.

> > Thank God that Bush said he will continue to use the same methods for
> > catching terrorists.

> He can say any God damned thing we wants. In fact I hope he say so much
> and continue to rant about how he likes torture and wiretaping and
> everything else illegal more than the oath he made on his first day,
> that when he is put on trial for treason we will have an encyclopedia of
> his treasonous words to work with.

While you love to respect the rights of Islamic terrorists, you are the
first to offer a hanging rope for Bush. Your love for the law appears
to end at the president's doorstep...there you are accusing Bush of
loving torture when he has never indicated anything of the kind...the
law to you is merely a book you throw around, sometimes at your
target's head.

> >>we are a Nation of Laws. Presidents are accountabel to the same laws as
> >>you and I are. If his arrogance is too great to resect the Rule of Law,
> >>he must be removed from office.

He has the right to execute this war. He is doing that.

> > I guess you've never heard of President Abraham Lincoln, who suspended
> > habeus corpus, etc!

> - I've heard of him you ignoranous. Obviously you've never heard of Ex
> Parte vs Milligan!!

I don't care about parlor decisions. President Bush is the man in the
arena. You are but a scribe who finds fault. You haven't saved one
person from a single terrorist. Keep up the good work. NOT!

>
> asswipe.

> Lincoln was a traitor, he was dealt with by God and the Supreme Court.

I'll settle for that. Let the Supreme Court decide that Bush was wrong.
That's fine with me as long as the presidents (whoever they are) keep
secretly ensnare more Islamic fucks.
>
> Bush will be dealt with too.

And God can judge him, too. I can hear God now, "Good job, Mr. Bush!
Good job!"

> > Why di dhe do that? Because he was CIC and we were
> > at war...does that sound familiar.

> Ex Parte vs Milligan. "at war" is irrelivant asswipe.

heh heh. The court is irrelevant because it has no army!

> Treason-
> Is there not some chosen curse, some hidden thunder in the stores of
> heaven, red with uncommon wrath, to blast the man who owes his
> greatness to his country's ruin!
> ---Joseph Addison
>
>
> "it is absurd that Bush said he relied on his inherent power
> as president to authorize the wiretaps. If that's true,
> he doesn't need the Patriot Act because he can just make it up as he
> goes along.
> I tell you, he's President George Bush, not King George Bush.
> This is not the system of government we have and that we fought for,"
>
> ---Senator Feingold
>
>
> "Eavesdropping on conversations of U.S citizens and others in the
> United States without a court order and without complying with the
> procedures of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act is both illegal
> and unconstitutional. The administration is claiming extraordinary
> presidential powers at the expense of civil liberties and is putting
> the president above the law,"
>
> ---Caroline Fredrickson,
> director of the American Civil Liberties Union's Washington Legislative
> Office

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